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E-Z Water-How to avoid melting the model?
Envar
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Posted: Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 08:26 AM UTC
Argh.
I have a pack of A-Z water and the package says it must be applied while still very hot. I have to put a tank in it. The question is, how to avoid melting the kit...
Should I use a dummy to make a right sized hole in the water and let it dry? Apply the kit afterwards and seal it in place with just a little details splashes of E-Z water?

If anyone has experience in this, please help me! I donŽt want to destroy my first tank!

Toni
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Posted: Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 08:45 AM UTC
Good question? Don't know exactlly.
I would suspect that the two plastic melt at different temperatures. Again don't know for sure.
What you can do is test it with a piece of the same sprue the kit came from. Melt a bit of EZ water and apply it around the sprue piece.
Here's an idea - put the model in the fridge for a few minutes to 'super cool' it. The good side of this is - it shouldn't melt. The bad is that if it's to cold it may inhibit the flow of the EZWater around it?
john17
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Posted: Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 09:13 AM UTC
The solution is.....don't use the ez water. I don't know about you, but I've used that product before and never really liked the results. Beside the fact that you have to heat it up, I always found that it was a bit too yellow looking to me. Also, I had problems with air bubbles in the product. Maybe it all just stemmed from improper use on my part.

My suggestion would be to use Woodland scenics newer product, Realistic Water. You use it straight from the bottle, it's clearer and works really well.

http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/785-1211

That's my 2 cents on it. :-) :-) :-)

Hope that helps!

John
Envar
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Posted: Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 10:18 AM UTC
Thanks for the info! I actually got same kind of suggestions from an IPMS site.
So it doesnŽt work in my case then.
Just have to go for some more shopping I guess..

IŽm sure though IŽll put it in good use!

Thanks,
Toni
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Posted: Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 11:55 AM UTC
Hi Envar,
How about liquid Decoupage material. I've used it for years as well as white glue. you can add food coloring to it since it is water based, You put it on in layers and there is no heat build up. And since you are layering it you can add effects to the water by coloring it to appear stained and muddy, as if something were still turning down below. By successive built up areas you can add waves and splashes, it just takes a while to build up those layers. Once you have the basic stuff down you can embellish it using clear plastic or transparent colors and baking soda to create wave and wake effects. If you leave some out a while you can string it out to make some neat bullet splashes and such effects.

Well, time to go back to the instructiuon sheets and Microsquirt world.
Hope it helps.

Jay
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