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Bren Carrier - Fire Damage?
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Posted: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 09:09 AM UTC
G'day guys
well my question isnt as broad as the title, but thats the simplest way to put it.
Im wondering specifically what fire would do to a Bren Gun Carrier.
The Carrier is painted in Olive drab, now would there just be a visual transition from OD to black and a more charred texture where the fire was, or what?
I couldnt find any photographs on the net, not in color anyway, plenty of other vehicles but im not sure if i should go from those as alot have whites and yellows on the body as well as the black from the fire and smoke, and im unsure if that was due to the color of the undercoat or something.
Anyway if anyone can help me out i'd really appreciate it.
Cheers
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Posted: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 09:57 AM UTC
Burned vehicals don't usually look like you immagined. Look up pictures of destroyed and burnt out Iraqi vehicles. You can find typical damage found on any burnt vehicle. Prime portal or tanxheaven might be a start.
Greg.
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Posted: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 09:59 AM UTC
Consume a case of bear and 3 packs of smokes a day and only eat pizza for about a week :-)
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Posted: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 08:53 PM UTC
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Posted: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 09:08 PM UTC

Quoted Text

Consume a case of bear and 3 packs of smokes a day and only eat pizza for about a week :-)



LMAO!
And ADD a half ounce of left-handed cigarettes!

Chris
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Posted: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 09:27 PM UTC
I was just reading a Mig article in a Tamiya magazine last night about obtaining a burnt out effect on a Tamiya T55 tank. I believe it was No.113 March 2005. You can get it from the Tamiya magazine site:
http://www.tamiyamodelmagazine.com

MInd you, that was not an OD vehicle, and was a completely (mostly) burnt tank, but it should help somewhat.

Jamie
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Posted: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 09:35 PM UTC
Here is a photo of a burning tanker that I built a couple of years ago. The paint would start to blacken and then burn off to expose the metal. as the metal begins to cool it will oxidize quickly and and start to rust.

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Posted: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 09:46 PM UTC
David, if you're interested I can email you some pics of burnt out cars. The local car thieves have taken to setting fire to stolen cars in the field where I walk my dog. It's surpring just how quickly they rust. Usually within 48hrs!
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Posted: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 06:48 AM UTC
Thanks guys.
Would there be any signs of rust after 24 hours?
Karl, the photo's would be great, thanks mate.
Cheers
animal
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Posted: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 05:58 PM UTC
There wil be soe surface rust for sure.
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Posted: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 09:42 PM UTC
Davio, PM your email address and I'll send them to you over the weekend
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Posted: Thursday, August 24, 2006 - 02:06 AM UTC
Dave, did some searching for you. Here is a link to some dios from our IPMS nationals. If you look in the 4th and 5th row down you will see some examples. Hope it helps. . Here is the link
http://svsm.org/gallery/2006NatsDioramas?page=5
Cheers Kevin
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