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Posted: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 11:01 AM UTC
Looks like a special edition of the Firefly #6182. It's model no. is 6323

http://www.dragonmodelsltd.com/DX06Europe/dx06europe_index.htm
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Posted: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 12:38 PM UTC
I wonder what special will be in this kit beside new box.
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Posted: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 01:22 PM UTC

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I wonder what special will be in this kit beside new box.


Only new corrected decals. Otherwise it will be the 6182 kit.

Pawel.
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Posted: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 01:26 PM UTC
Thanks for info Paweł.
Maybe it sounds selffish but would prefer polish or canadian markings (more for polish of course) with alluminium barrel added. That would be a nice special edition.
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Posted: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 01:50 PM UTC

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Maybe it sounds selffish but would prefer polish or canadian markings (more for polish of course) with alluminium barrel added. That would be a nice special edition.

Patience my friend, patience - this edition is for DX Euro, so it will only include corrected markings for a tank of show VIP. It is nice that DML decided to at least redo decals - after all kit 6182 included markings for this tank, jut not very accurate ones.

Pawel

(Jak dobrze pójdzie to w przyszłym roku będzie praktycznie kompletnie nowy model. Ale najpierw musimy skończyć M4A2, Shermana III, Firefly Ic i jeszcze coś nie zapowiedzianego )
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Posted: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 02:26 PM UTC
Judging from the poster DML still havent corrected the suspension arms being
placed wrongly on their 1:72 Firefly (too far from the pins they should hang on)
I was wondering is there any chance that you Paweł can whisper a word to DML
about the issue? I reckon that if they'd knew that, they'd correct that with
the second of thier Shermans. Now we have third sherman with the same flaw.

Cheers
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Posted: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 02:34 PM UTC

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Now we have third sherman with the same flaw.


The model you see on the picture is built from various early test parts and even decals are not final.
Note that there are recessed "trenches" on glacis plate. In final kit these will be replaced with nice raised lines.

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Posted: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 02:43 PM UTC
I apprieciate your help, but the problem is known and you may notice that I already removed the line you quoted from my original post. I realized that I don't remember what was in that kit, so I removed the text. Firefly suspension was corrected.

Pawel
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Posted: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 02:44 PM UTC

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I wonder what special will be in this kit beside new box.


Only new corrected decals. Otherwise it will be the 6182 kit.

Pawel.


6182 kit? Is this the old (and latest) Firefly VC?
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Posted: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 02:46 PM UTC

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6182 kit? Is this the old (and latest) Firefly VC?


Yes.

Pawel
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Posted: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 02:52 PM UTC

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I apprieciate your help, but the problem is known and you may notice that I already removed the line you quoted from my original post. I realized that I don't remember what was in that kit, so I removed the text. Firefly suspension was corrected.

Pawel


It's great to hear that it's ben corrected, now I can sleep peacefully waiting for the Firefly to become available in stores Oh and given it was corrected I also deleted my post about the flaw
Thanks for the info Paweł

Regards
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Posted: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 03:45 PM UTC
Pawel,

Is there any chance that any of the new Shermans or Firefly will be a premium kit? Do you know of a target date for release? I hope that you are allowed to answer such questions (though I will fully understand if you are not allowed to!)

Thanks.
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Posted: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 04:35 PM UTC

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Is there any chance that any of the new Shermans or Firefly will be a premium kit? Do you know of a target date for release? I hope that you are allowed to answer such questions (though I will fully understand if you are not allowed to!)

There are no plans that I'm aware of for Premium M4 kits. I guess DML assumes that recent releases are good enough as they are and don't need to be re-released as Premiums

There are however plans for new tooling kits of more M4 variants (above those already announced), but I can't tell you anything more until DML announce them what probably won't happen for a few months.

Remember that Premium kit is old model with some new parts and small modifications to old parts. In case of M4 kits DML plan more radical improvements.

Pawel

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Posted: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 05:46 PM UTC
The 72nd scale one looks good. Can't wait to grab a couple. I am glad I did not shell out the almost $30 for the Eduard/ExtraTech Firefly.
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Posted: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 06:13 PM UTC
I can't wait to see what what Dragon will offer with their future realeses.

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(Jak dobrze pójdzie to w przyszłym roku będzie praktycznie kompletnie nowy model. Ale najpierw musimy skończyć M4A2, Shermana III, Firefly Ic i jeszcze coś nie zapowiedzianego )

[Pawle, a możesz zdradzić ciut więcej szczegółów (chociaż na pm). np czy sherman III będzie miał osłony piaskowe/błotniki żeby chociaż trochę przypominał to na czym Polacy jeździli w Afryce i Włoszech? No i czy może możemy liczyć na polskie kalki?]
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Posted: Thursday, August 24, 2006 - 01:49 AM UTC
Thanks, Pawel.

If you can, tell those people at Dragon that we need more Canadian and Polish decals in Firefly kits! I'd pay so much more for a kit to get more of said decals.
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Posted: Thursday, August 24, 2006 - 07:15 PM UTC
Interesting how this seems to have come about. In 2004 Military Modelling magazine ran an article on building 'Carole' of 13th/18th Hussars (Vol34 NO 7, 18 June-8 July), in which Peter Heath describes inaccuracies in the decal sheet in the Firefly Kitset.

A year later (V 35 No 7, June 17-July 7 2005) Ken Jones wrote an article about No 2 Troop, 'C' Squadron, and the Shermans of the 27th Armoured Brigade, after he had been contacted by Peter Kay who was the gunner of 'Carole'.

Now Dragon is releasing a new Carole, with a 1:6 action figure of Peter Kay.

Jeff W.
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