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working with mig pigments
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Posted: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 12:46 AM UTC

I am planning to buy some so any advice or link on web would be most welcome. Do I have to use them with some liquid (thinner, water etc) or can I use them only with drybrush tehnique.
If they are drybrushed can it be removed easily with water or something?
Where is the best place to get them in EU?

Thanks in advance !!

Regards,
Marko
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Posted: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 12:56 AM UTC
Marko,
You can use them wet or dry. You can use water or thinner. I went to MIG's site and read about using them, but the best thing to do is get some and experiment. If you put them on dry and try to remove them with water, it might not work too well.
Hope this helps,
Rob
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Posted: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 01:45 AM UTC
Hi Marko,

I have posted this interesting page with an articleby Mig himself that explains a variety of methods of working with Mig Pigments, I hope it is useful as I think it is a useful introduction for getting to grips with them.

http://www.missing-lynx.com/rare_world/rw05.htm

I hope that it helps you in your using the pigments that you have invested in.

John
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Posted: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 01:57 AM UTC

Thanks a lot Rob and John, That is a great link.

Regards,

Marko
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Posted: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 02:57 AM UTC
hey , Marko
hope the Mig pigments work out fine.
I use pigments for Fresco's, I bought them at a specialist shop for painters and art'people' ( There are a couple of artschools in my town )
I bought burned sienna, raw umber, black, brown yellow,ect.
A good advice is to buy pastelchalks, they look like the "wasco's " children play with but they're not greasy but drychalk like.
If you scrape some of you have little portions of pigment.
These pastelchalks come in every shade you can think of, I have mostly bought Ocre and Brown tints, since I use them for making my models "dusty".
Applying can , as mentioned in other reply, be applied using water (slow drying), alcohol, thinner ( fast but riskfull for paint ) terpentine( greasy tidemarks) ,
I use nafta, you can easily find it as Zippo Lighterfuel, dries verry fast, and you are able to see 'instant' progress.
!!!beware everything touched with the paintbrush (while wet) will be 'coated" with pastel!!!!
Hope to see some of your work soon



greetz Peter
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Posted: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 11:20 PM UTC

Hello Peter,
thanks for advices,
I was using pastels but I just couldn't get it fine enough when I scraped it. I was satisfide with it but i saw it could be better. Is mig pigment finer than scraped pastels?
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Posted: Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 01:02 AM UTC
Marko,
From what I read there is quite a lot of difference between Pastels and Mig pigments. The pigments are what they say being the type of material that paints are made from, traditionally artists bought pigment and combined it with oil and other agants to make their own paint. Traditional chalk pastel are quite different in the way that they work and I have found that the Mig pigments are easier to blend and have a better bite to grip on the surface. They can also be used with a variety of different materials like paint thinners to achieve different effects. paint thinners works differently than Tamiya thinners or water.

Like many things it is horses for courses in that you could try both and see which you prefer, but I will never go back to chalks and look forward to trying the MMP Pigments too.

There are some members on the site that have described buying pigments directly from art sources to achieve the same effects, none of the local shops near me sell raw pigment so I will stick to those from companies like Mig.

John
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