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How do you pre-shade?
steelskin
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Posted: Sunday, September 03, 2006 - 01:22 PM UTC
i've been hearing all about pre-shading and i have one question: what exactly is pre-shading and what is it for? i saw a video tutorial (testors scale workshop i think) where the guy painted the panel lines in a dark color before he painted the base color. but he was working on a plane (a bf-109) is the method the same when painting tanks? i’m sure i’m not the only newbie who is clueless about all this. hope someone can give us all a run-down of the technique.
janwillem
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Posted: Sunday, September 03, 2006 - 02:38 PM UTC
here is a link to a video explaining everything

Click me

Hoop it helps.

Jan-Willem
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Posted: Sunday, September 03, 2006 - 08:11 PM UTC
Thank You for that excellent link......it really helps to see a process performed rather then just read about it
Sticky
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Posted: Sunday, September 03, 2006 - 09:26 PM UTC
What I found most interesting in the Video is how he holds the airbrush! How many of you hold it the same way? I hold mine like a pen, and use my index finger on the trigger, not my Thumb!!!
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Posted: Monday, September 04, 2006 - 01:43 AM UTC
Its a good video. The thumb-triggering was driving me nuts to watch though. Tanks need a little more overcoating for preshading as there is not a plethora of panel lines on them and the shapes are totally different(deep dish roadwheels, cast turrets, coupolas, complex vent systems, and of course-tracks!). Vinnie's Tiger 1 painting article shows the progression well, the concept is the same:



https://armorama.kitmaker.net//features/545

It is a weathering technique, and like all techniques, can be overdone too. I think preshading is much more realistic then washes overall.
kevinb120
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Posted: Monday, September 04, 2006 - 05:59 AM UTC
lol in the following installment, he starts off with explaining his style to apparently a ton of emails he got I have seen others do it the unorthodox way with the thumb. Stil makes me nuts though. :-)

I watched a bunch of these videos and everyone new to airbrushing should watch them as it would answer about 4 million internet posts yearly
steelskin
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Posted: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 - 07:39 AM UTC

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here is a link to a video explaining everything

Click me

Hoop it helps.

Jan-Willem


thanks janwillem, sorry i failed to reply immediately. i’ve been out on fieldwork for a few days and there are still areas in my country with no access to the internet. anyway, as i mentioned in my post, i’ve already seen that video and since he’s doing it on a plane i wasn’t sure if the same technique applies to armor…i’ve seen some articles however, where they seem to do the pre-shading on the entire tank rather than on select areas only. i'n hoping to try pre-shading on a iosef stalin tank when i get home tonight.
steelskin
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Posted: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 - 07:55 AM UTC

Quoted Text

Its a good video. The thumb-triggering was driving me nuts to watch though. Tanks need a little more overcoating for preshading as there is not a plethora of panel lines on them and the shapes are totally different(deep dish roadwheels, cast turrets, coupolas, complex vent systems, and of course-tracks!). Vinnie's Tiger 1 painting article shows the progression well, the concept is the same:



https://armorama.kitmaker.net//features/545

It is a weathering technique, and like all techniques, can be overdone too. I think preshading is much more realistic then washes overall.


thanks for this link! I vaguely recall having read it some months back. but i think i was looking for tips on drybrushing and the pre-shading part failed to stick. this gives me some ideas on how i’ll go about painting the IS-3 (just substitute grey with russian green, hehe)

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