Hi Gents,
Almost finished a 1:76th Milicast Sherman 1C Firefly. I'm at a bit of a loss as to what markings to put on it, any ideas? A bit of colour would be nice. I have a whole troop to mark up if that has any bearing on suggestions .......
cheers
Brent
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Sherman 1C Firefly with composite hull
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Posted: Monday, October 02, 2006 - 09:30 AM UTC
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Posted: Monday, October 02, 2006 - 12:24 PM UTC
First of all Brent, let me say that, that is an AMAZING piece of work - as i'm getting more into Braille-scale Shermans myself at the moment, work like that is really inspiring...
Couple of suggestions for you - both are Polish, both from the Rossagraph book on the Firefly 1c:
1) RYCERZ 1 (T-270012) 2nd Squadron, 1st Krechowiecki Lancers. 2nd Armd Brigade, 2nd 'Warsaw' Armored Division:
2) 'Crazy-Gang'
Couple of suggestions for you - both are Polish, both from the Rossagraph book on the Firefly 1c:
1) RYCERZ 1 (T-270012) 2nd Squadron, 1st Krechowiecki Lancers. 2nd Armd Brigade, 2nd 'Warsaw' Armored Division:
2) 'Crazy-Gang'
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Posted: Monday, October 02, 2006 - 12:54 PM UTC
Brent
That is one truly nice looking sherman, did you undercoat with black before adding the main colour? Did you use an airbrush or hand paint it? how did you apply the paint chips & scratches? Last question which paint s did you use, enemels or acrylics?
cheers
Sparten
That is one truly nice looking sherman, did you undercoat with black before adding the main colour? Did you use an airbrush or hand paint it? how did you apply the paint chips & scratches? Last question which paint s did you use, enemels or acrylics?
cheers
Sparten
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Posted: Monday, October 02, 2006 - 07:58 PM UTC
Hi Jim,
Problem with Rycerz, it's an ordinary welded hull M4, not a composite, "crazy Gang" looks like the answer.
Paul.
Problem with Rycerz, it's an ordinary welded hull M4, not a composite, "crazy Gang" looks like the answer.
Paul.
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Posted: Monday, October 02, 2006 - 09:41 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Problem with Rycerz, it's an ordinary welded hull M4, not a composite,
VERY true - the dangers of posting first thing in the moprning!...Jim
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Posted: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 - 12:56 AM UTC
Hi Jim,
Thanks for the comments and suggestions. Yeah one of the tricky things with the markings is the composite hull if you want historically accurate markings. They're not the most common varient used by the Brits and Poles but it makes for a really nice looking Sherman.
One of the good thing about this scale and the Milicast Shermans in general is the choice of varients available. I think they have over 20 or so to chose from ............ My troop has a Mk1 with three piece transmission cover & M34A1 mantlet, a Mk1 with extra armour and a cast transmission, a MkIII late production and an early MkV with direct vision slots.
John - on the colours it aint that easy to describe. Quickly, its all brushed I undercoat with enamels and use GW acrylics for all the top coats and shading.
As mentioned I base coat with Humbrols for durability and coverage. I vary the green for variety as this has a subtle effect on the finished green. I then pin wash the shadow in with a very thinned mix of acrylics - thinners, black and brown. Then I drybrush one the main green, a mix of GW acrylics. Finish with pin shading, waer and chipping then ground colour weathering. I've attached a link to a site with a couple of wip projects and some more detail. If theres interest I could put something a bit more polished .........
cheers
Brent
http://xsorbit26.com/users5/elhiem/index.php?topic=5485.0
http://xsorbit26.com/users5/elhiem/index.php?topic=5744.0
http://xsorbit26.com/users5/elhiem/index.php?topic=5744.0
Thanks for the comments and suggestions. Yeah one of the tricky things with the markings is the composite hull if you want historically accurate markings. They're not the most common varient used by the Brits and Poles but it makes for a really nice looking Sherman.
One of the good thing about this scale and the Milicast Shermans in general is the choice of varients available. I think they have over 20 or so to chose from ............ My troop has a Mk1 with three piece transmission cover & M34A1 mantlet, a Mk1 with extra armour and a cast transmission, a MkIII late production and an early MkV with direct vision slots.
John - on the colours it aint that easy to describe. Quickly, its all brushed I undercoat with enamels and use GW acrylics for all the top coats and shading.
As mentioned I base coat with Humbrols for durability and coverage. I vary the green for variety as this has a subtle effect on the finished green. I then pin wash the shadow in with a very thinned mix of acrylics - thinners, black and brown. Then I drybrush one the main green, a mix of GW acrylics. Finish with pin shading, waer and chipping then ground colour weathering. I've attached a link to a site with a couple of wip projects and some more detail. If theres interest I could put something a bit more polished .........
cheers
Brent
http://xsorbit26.com/users5/elhiem/index.php?topic=5485.0
http://xsorbit26.com/users5/elhiem/index.php?topic=5744.0
http://xsorbit26.com/users5/elhiem/index.php?topic=5744.0
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Posted: Thursday, October 05, 2006 - 12:57 AM UTC
Chaps
We had a prolonged discussion on Polish II Korpus Firefly Ic under the 1/48th topic a couple of weeks ago, which featured Rycerz 1. Worth digging through the last few weeks of forum discussions as there are one or two links that could be useful.
The Intech publication "Polskie Pojazdy Wojskowe 1939 - 1945" is useful and worth digging out. It includes some 1/72nd scale decals, which could form the basis for some nice freehand work.
Brent - your Firefly Ic looks great! If you do decide on a II Korpus scheme I'd love to see photos of the finished troop.
Cheers
Karol
We had a prolonged discussion on Polish II Korpus Firefly Ic under the 1/48th topic a couple of weeks ago, which featured Rycerz 1. Worth digging through the last few weeks of forum discussions as there are one or two links that could be useful.
The Intech publication "Polskie Pojazdy Wojskowe 1939 - 1945" is useful and worth digging out. It includes some 1/72nd scale decals, which could form the basis for some nice freehand work.
Brent - your Firefly Ic looks great! If you do decide on a II Korpus scheme I'd love to see photos of the finished troop.
Cheers
Karol
Posted: Thursday, October 05, 2006 - 06:30 AM UTC
Hi Brent,
Ic looks great, don't know enough about the Polish actions to suggest a setting I'm afraid.
Have to do a bit of homework there.
Thanks for sharing
Cheers
Al
Ic looks great, don't know enough about the Polish actions to suggest a setting I'm afraid.
Have to do a bit of homework there.
Thanks for sharing
Cheers
Al
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Posted: Thursday, October 05, 2006 - 12:23 PM UTC
Hi,
I'm a bit late on this one but your Sherman looks great! Not too much scratches etc and paint job is top notch.
Br,
NIko
I'm a bit late on this one but your Sherman looks great! Not too much scratches etc and paint job is top notch.
Br,
NIko