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Norwegian Leopard 2A4 WIP #2
Erik67
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Posted: Saturday, October 21, 2006 - 01:46 AM UTC
Well, I have more or less finished the construction part of this Leopard. I need to remove a couple of track links from the AFV tracks and the tank need some touch ups here and there. I did some minor modifications to the front tow hooks, since they are not right in their original Revell configuration (at least not for a Norwegian tank). Side skirts are just "blue-tacked" on to see if they fit over the AM tracks. It seems like they will fit nicely without any modifications. The plan now is to paint and install the running gear before I install the side skirts. This is done because I find it a bit difficult to install the tracks after the side skirts are in place. However, here are some pics, comments and questions are as allways welcome.

Erik





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Posted: Saturday, October 21, 2006 - 02:05 AM UTC
Nice job!

What did you use for the anti-skid?

cheers
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Posted: Saturday, October 21, 2006 - 02:10 AM UTC
Hi Erik,
very nice Leo. What is camo, NATO 3 color?
Erik67
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Posted: Saturday, October 21, 2006 - 02:14 AM UTC

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What did you use for the anti-skid?


I use a spraypaint called Citadell rough coat




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What is camo, NATO 3 color?


Sorry, but no. It will be in an overall NATO green color

Erik
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Posted: Saturday, October 21, 2006 - 02:34 AM UTC

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What did you use for the anti-skid?


I use a spraypaint called Citadell rough coat




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What is camo, NATO 3 color?


Sorry, but no. It will be in an overall NATO green color

Erik

No hinder, Leo is nice on all color I build circa 10 Leopards and all is nice.
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Posted: Saturday, October 21, 2006 - 06:23 AM UTC
Keeps getting better. What's with the white roadwheels?

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Posted: Saturday, October 21, 2006 - 06:30 AM UTC
I have the Italeri version of this kit and I'm working on it now. Any ideas of what you are going to do to spruce up the periscopes? Did I see correctly that Eduard makes a PE set for this?
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Posted: Saturday, October 21, 2006 - 04:20 PM UTC

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What's with the white roadwheels?

They are primed...


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Any ideas of what you are going to do to spruce up the periscopes? Did I see correctly that Eduard makes a PE set for this?


I will leave the periscopes as they are. I could not find a PE set especially made for the A4, so I used Eduards Leopard 2 Improved set. Not their best set I think, since I ended up scratchbuilding some of the parts, rather than using the PE parts.

Erik
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Posted: Saturday, October 21, 2006 - 04:56 PM UTC
Hey Erik

Nice build. I don't know if you changed the loaders hatch I can't see it......
Just kidding :-) :-) Looks really nice. I can't wait to see this beauty in paint. You might have some real pics of the norwegian 2A4?? I would be interested.

Cheers Roel
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Posted: Sunday, October 22, 2006 - 01:09 AM UTC
Which 120 mm did the (early) Leopard 2 use?
Erik67
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Posted: Sunday, October 22, 2006 - 01:38 AM UTC
Reihnmetall L-44
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Posted: Sunday, October 22, 2006 - 06:51 AM UTC

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Reihnmetall L-44


Perfect...next question, what 120 mm did the Leopard II A5 have? Reason I ask is that I've just won a Tamiya Leopard II A6 from eBay and understand it has two barrels, the A5s' as well as the longer A6s'. I'm assuming the Tamiya barrel is better than the Italeri one (for my Leopard II) and that I can make it fit, again assuming it is appropriate. Experts please weigh in.
ptruhe
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Posted: Sunday, October 22, 2006 - 10:31 AM UTC
The A5 and A6 both use a L55 cannon but the A6 one is longer. http://www.fprado.com/armorsite/leo2.htm

Edit: Doh. I really need to work on my reading comprehension. The A5 (KWS II) and 2A4 have the L44 cannon.

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Posted: Monday, October 23, 2006 - 07:03 AM UTC

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The A5 and A6 both use a L55 cannon but the A6 one is longer. http://www.fprado.com/armorsite/leo2.htm

Paul


Well so much for that bright idea... Wouldn't be so hard to swallow if Model Point's L44 wasn't 20$+
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Posted: Monday, October 23, 2006 - 09:41 AM UTC

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Well so much for that bright idea... Wouldn't be so hard to swallow if Model Point's L44 wasn't 20$+


Why not use the A5 barrel on the Italeri kit and the A6 barrel on the Tamiya kit?

Paul
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Posted: Monday, October 23, 2006 - 04:20 PM UTC

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Well so much for that bright idea... Wouldn't be so hard to swallow if Model Point's L44 wasn't 20$+


Why not use the A5 barrel on the Italeri kit and the A6 barrel on the Tamiya kit?

Paul


Well that's what I intended to do assuming the A5's barrel was right for the Italeri kit. Is there much visual difference between a L44 and a short barrel L55 (as on the Leopard 2 A5)?
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Posted: Monday, October 23, 2006 - 08:03 PM UTC
I think a lot of your questions can be answered on this site

Erik
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Posted: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 09:00 AM UTC

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I think a lot of your questions can be answered on this site

Erik


So based on that, the L55 is visually similar to the L44 but for 1.3 M more length. But I imagine taking the scale equivalent of 1.3 M off the Tamiya kit's L55 won't simply give you a L44 inasmuch as I'm sure there is barrel taper? The barrel isn't a simple extrusion, is it?
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Posted: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 10:50 AM UTC
I apologize for any confusion I may have introduced earlier.

If you use the L55 barrel on the D sprue from the Tamiya 2A6 kit then you have the L44 barrel on the B sprue left over. But not having the 2A6 kit myself only the 2A5 kit, I deduce from the D sprue picture on PMMS that you don't get an extra barrel tip with muzzle reference sensor. The MRS on the Italeri/Revell L44 barrel is pretty weak in detail.

If you have the Italeri Leo II kit then it has the early barrel. But the 2A4 and 2A5 have such different mantlets that I think it would be very difficult to utilize the barrel from the Tamiya kit. You'd have better luck using it on a Italeri/Revell 2A5 kit.

Paul
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