this is one question i would like to be enlighten on. what is russian green? how does it looks like?
you see im building my first kv-1 . i would like to know the historically correct color or maybe somewhere close to it.
the box art shows a very light green (too light) which i am still questioning about and then comes the instruction which shows the green are very dark.
so which one is it is the russian green?
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What is Russian Green?
Danial
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Posted: Monday, October 23, 2006 - 05:29 AM UTC
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Posted: Monday, October 23, 2006 - 06:14 AM UTC
Danial if you can get Vallejo acrylics,they have "894 Russian Green" which is an excellent color for Russian armor or Model Master "2122 Russian Topside Green" which looks good too...As far as what color "Russian Green" actually is,I am not all that sure but it looks to me to be similar to U.S Olive Drab, maybe a bit lighter on the yellowish side. Hope that helps
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Posted: Monday, October 23, 2006 - 06:15 AM UTC
Either one.
The Soviets weren't too worried about consistent paint -- they just wanted more tanks. It was supposed to be dark green, but in reality ranged from a black green to pea green. Use whatever shade of green suits your fancy -- just make sure it's green.
The Soviets weren't too worried about consistent paint -- they just wanted more tanks. It was supposed to be dark green, but in reality ranged from a black green to pea green. Use whatever shade of green suits your fancy -- just make sure it's green.
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Posted: Monday, October 23, 2006 - 01:25 PM UTC
'Russian Green' is, as Bob said, anything from VERY dark Green downwards. It's one of three 'mythical' colors in the modelling world. OD and Confederate Butternut being the other two .
It varied from factory to factory (and from shift to shift) and since the Soviets were more concerned about the vehicles getting off the production line and onto the front-line, there was NO standardization of paint - they used whatever green was available...Jim
It varied from factory to factory (and from shift to shift) and since the Soviets were more concerned about the vehicles getting off the production line and onto the front-line, there was NO standardization of paint - they used whatever green was available...Jim
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Posted: Monday, October 23, 2006 - 01:41 PM UTC
Danial- The Russians used whatever Dark Green was available. In fact many Soviet AFV,s left the factory without any paint at all. I use Pullman Green as a base coat for my Soviet AFV,s. It,s a Dark Green/Olive color for Pullman railroad passenger cars from the 1930s.
Cheers Rob- MiG-17
Cheers Rob- MiG-17
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Posted: Monday, October 23, 2006 - 06:14 PM UTC
thank you guys...it looks like basically its anything green, since the russians were eager to get it out frm the production line...looks like i have to do a little color experimentation for myself...thanks again guys..
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Posted: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 01:36 AM UTC
As mentioned, the Russians had other issues on their minds in 1941 besides paint standards, and there was much variation between batches of paint. However, a standard was issued, and Cookie Sewell reports that modern Russian researchers consider FS34102 (available as a US Air Force camouflage color in many paint lines) is a good match to the original color cards. This will at least give you a starting point.
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Posted: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 11:35 AM UTC
I used the russian armor green from MM and it looked like plastic-army-men green when dry. I re-tweaked it with the base coat with lots of green drab added and the shading coats 'softened' with german olivgrun. But that was for a lighter shade, the next one is probably going to be MUCH darker, closer to straight green drab, a very dark green. There seems to be no right answer except for if you have a full-color photo you're working with for your subject. But the MM 'russian armor green' is hideous right from the bottle. I've seen it from a super-bright almost yellowish green to the extremely dark green(common on Russian pedestal display tanks) that almost looks black on a cloudy day.
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Posted: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 01:28 PM UTC
Hi,
Tamiya NATO green (I think it is XF-67) is always a safe choise if you are not totally sure.
Cheers,
Matthijs
Tamiya NATO green (I think it is XF-67) is always a safe choise if you are not totally sure.
Cheers,
Matthijs
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Posted: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 09:17 PM UTC
Hi
i use XF61 Dark Green mixed with a little XF60 dark yellow for my sovyet *
tanks (i only did tow of 'em ) but you can see if you like it
hope it helps a bit
i use XF61 Dark Green mixed with a little XF60 dark yellow for my sovyet *
tanks (i only did tow of 'em ) but you can see if you like it
hope it helps a bit