Hi
Are there any differences between teh british nbc variant of the fuchs and the basic revell kit, if there are does anyone make a conversion set? Thanks Nick
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harrier1
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Posted: Saturday, October 28, 2006 - 03:59 PM UTC
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Posted: Saturday, October 28, 2006 - 09:02 PM UTC
Hello Nick,
Not sure about the British version vs. the "FOX" in US use, but there is a Revell kit that is specific to the NBC version...perhaps you are already talking about this kit? IF so, it is very basic, period. If the British version is the same as the US version (and not hte same as the German version) and you can get a copy of the Concord book on US Softskins in Military Service, they have better detail shots of the vehicle and some of the details needed.
I built the kit for a friend who served on them and only did rudimentary detailing to it beyond making it US Specific. This included adding the sampling ports in the rear and some other small details, all located in the areas specific to maikng the US "FOX" version. Hope that helps a bit!
Not sure about the British version vs. the "FOX" in US use, but there is a Revell kit that is specific to the NBC version...perhaps you are already talking about this kit? IF so, it is very basic, period. If the British version is the same as the US version (and not hte same as the German version) and you can get a copy of the Concord book on US Softskins in Military Service, they have better detail shots of the vehicle and some of the details needed.
I built the kit for a friend who served on them and only did rudimentary detailing to it beyond making it US Specific. This included adding the sampling ports in the rear and some other small details, all located in the areas specific to maikng the US "FOX" version. Hope that helps a bit!
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Posted: Sunday, October 29, 2006 - 01:39 AM UTC
It depends on what time frame you are looking at building a British Fox.
The first ones that were used in Desert Storm/Desert Sabre were only slightly modified from the German version.
Both the U.S. and British Fox in Desert Storm/Desert Sabre had the U.S./ British style smoke grenade launchers mounted replacing the German 76mm Wegmann launchers.
They also had a different machine gun mount added to the driver's compartment cupola to replace the German MG3 mount. The U.S/British Fox mounted the M240 in the same style cradle as used for the loader's M240 on the Abrams.
They also mounted a field telephone in an rectangular shaped armoured box at the right rear of the hull.
The U.S./British original Fox used the tires with the chevron pattern treads and have since been updated to the newer style tread pattern.
After the 1991 Gulf War the U.S M93 Fox was upgraded to the M93A1 version with additional sensors and stowage boxes. The British Fox has also been updated since then with additional stowage boxes, mounts on the front left and right side of the hull for Chemical Agent Monitors (CAM), and other upgrades.
MR Models has a U.S. M93A1 Fox conversion MRA-35207 listed as still TBA status.
The first ones that were used in Desert Storm/Desert Sabre were only slightly modified from the German version.
Both the U.S. and British Fox in Desert Storm/Desert Sabre had the U.S./ British style smoke grenade launchers mounted replacing the German 76mm Wegmann launchers.
They also had a different machine gun mount added to the driver's compartment cupola to replace the German MG3 mount. The U.S/British Fox mounted the M240 in the same style cradle as used for the loader's M240 on the Abrams.
They also mounted a field telephone in an rectangular shaped armoured box at the right rear of the hull.
The U.S./British original Fox used the tires with the chevron pattern treads and have since been updated to the newer style tread pattern.
After the 1991 Gulf War the U.S M93 Fox was upgraded to the M93A1 version with additional sensors and stowage boxes. The British Fox has also been updated since then with additional stowage boxes, mounts on the front left and right side of the hull for Chemical Agent Monitors (CAM), and other upgrades.
MR Models has a U.S. M93A1 Fox conversion MRA-35207 listed as still TBA status.
harrier1
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Posted: Sunday, October 29, 2006 - 12:58 PM UTC
Hi. Thanks guys,
@ Jacques, What is the kit number of the revell kit specfific to the NBC variant?
@ Jason, I would like to build a vehicle from Op Telic 1 in 2003 (or OIF)
Cheers, Nick
@ Jacques, What is the kit number of the revell kit specfific to the NBC variant?
@ Jason, I would like to build a vehicle from Op Telic 1 in 2003 (or OIF)
Cheers, Nick
Jacques
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Posted: Sunday, October 29, 2006 - 09:01 PM UTC
Sorry, I do not have the kit number on hand anylonger, and it appears the kit is OOP. But, here are some other resources:
List of resources
built model of the German Version
List of resources
built model of the German Version
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Posted: Sunday, October 29, 2006 - 10:12 PM UTC
Thanks Jacques. Nick
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Posted: Monday, October 30, 2006 - 01:28 AM UTC
The Revell TPz 1 Fuchs ABC (atomic, biological, chemical) was kit number 03038. I haven't seen one for sale in a while, but they did release a later version of the Fuchs recently (Eloka) in 1/72 scale.
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Posted: Monday, October 30, 2006 - 01:04 PM UTC
Ok, Thanks Sabot, maybe I will have to look on ebay Nick