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Posted: Thursday, November 09, 2006 - 02:45 AM UTC
Does anyone build this as a kit, or is some scratch building in order :-)



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Posted: Thursday, November 09, 2006 - 02:52 AM UTC
Tamiya used to have an M577
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Posted: Thursday, November 09, 2006 - 02:56 AM UTC
Tamiya's M577A1 was recently re-issued and is pretty readily available. It will need some mods to make it into an Israeli version, but it will be pretty easy to do so.



Good luck.
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Posted: Thursday, November 09, 2006 - 03:16 AM UTC
You would have to do a lot of scratchbuilding on the Tamiya kit to get the IDF M-577.
AEF does a few but as you would probebly alredy have read it's not the best manufacturer in town but the only on who doe a conversion for this type of vehicle.

AEF

And this is the photo Click me

The IDF name for this vehicle is Mugaf


Hoop it helps

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Posted: Thursday, November 09, 2006 - 03:25 AM UTC
Wow thanks for the replies!

I was going to build the Canadian version actually, just posted the first pic that came up (sorry).

I saw the tamyia version but can't seem to find one locally and was wondering if another manufacturer had one.

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Posted: Thursday, November 09, 2006 - 03:32 AM UTC
Nope, only Tamiya does one. Great Models is showing it as a Pre-Order. There are a couple on eBay too.
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Posted: Thursday, November 09, 2006 - 03:36 AM UTC
You can also get it at Hobby Link
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Posted: Thursday, November 09, 2006 - 03:41 AM UTC
As said, Tamiya's kit is the only injection moulded plastic one available. I've always wondered about how this kit went together, and who makes the best series of vehicles based on the M113 chasis...
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Posted: Thursday, November 09, 2006 - 03:46 AM UTC
Academy's M113 series is the best. They are very detailed, have full interiors, offer both indi-link or rubber band tracks, and have lots of extras. Tamiya's are pretty good and go together easily, as do Academy's. Tamiya's have some issues though, like the upper troop hatch is molded with the release chain on the wrong side. Stay away from the Italeri/Revell ones, they are pretty bad.

For a nice M577, the best bet is to take Tamiya's M577 upper hull parts and mate them to an Academy lower hull and interior, with M577 specific interior parts (fuel cells, work tables, TC stand, etc.) sctratched. That is what I plan on doing...eventually.
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Posted: Thursday, November 09, 2006 - 04:15 AM UTC
The Tamiya M577 isnt that bad a kit OOB, as long as you have the hatches closed up as it doesnt have an interior. Conversion to a Canadian "Queen Mary" is fairly simple as I believe we just copied the US design/layout pretty much exactly.
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Posted: Thursday, November 09, 2006 - 04:22 AM UTC

Quoted Text

Conversion to a Canadian "Queen Mary" is fairly simple as I believe we just copied the US design/layout pretty much exactly.



I was going to get some pics from the ones in the "herbie" compound, and scratch anything I had to to make it Canadian. Friend of mine wants one like he had in Germany lol.

cheers
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Posted: Thursday, November 09, 2006 - 04:31 AM UTC
Scratch building an interior will be very easy. IIRC, the 577A1 that I commanded and drove was far more sparten than a 113. The sidewalls, areas above the tracks and batteries and floor would need to be done. In the 577A1 I drove and commanded HQ 13 was pale green inside w/a shelf along the wall on the drivers side for equipment/radios excetera. on the oposite wall was a 4x8 sheet of plywood. The interior heater is in the same location as a 113 as are the engine compartment hatches. The only thing that I can't remember is the location of the fuel tank.
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Posted: Thursday, November 09, 2006 - 04:48 AM UTC

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The only thing that I can't remember is the location of the fuel tank.



The fuel tanks run along both sides of the hull on top of the track sponsons, under the work tables.


More pics at Prime Portal.
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Posted: Thursday, November 09, 2006 - 04:48 AM UTC

Quoted Text

The Tamiya M577 isnt that bad a kit OOB, as long as you have the hatches closed up as it doesnt have an interior. Conversion to a Canadian "Queen Mary" is fairly simple as I believe we just copied the US design/layout pretty much exactly.



Not quiet true. If you want to build a current Canadian M577A3, there's a lot that needs to be done. New sprocket/tracks, new generator, all kinds of bins/equipment up top, smoke grenade launchers etc, etc. Tamiya kit still needs work to do an older one, at least some Diehl tracks needed.

Jim
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Posted: Thursday, November 09, 2006 - 06:54 AM UTC
This reissue is a very nice news!!! I had one and would be nice to buy another one some day!

Here mine built some years ago:



Bye,

Marcelo
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Posted: Thursday, November 09, 2006 - 07:07 AM UTC
I agree with Jim,

The new Canadian M577A3 is quite a bit different.

But you may be in luck for building an M577A1 used in Germany. They all looked like the basic versions.

Here is a couple of links that will help you out for painting and decals:

Three colour camouflage pattern:
[urlhttp://www.armouredacorn.com/Reference/ArmourColours/Canadian%20M113s.htm[/url]


Decals for an Artillery M577A1:
[urlhttp://store.quartermastersdepot.com/Shop/tabid/1/CatalogItemID/74/CatalogID/1/psnavcmd/CatalogItemDetails/Default.aspx[/url]

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Posted: Thursday, November 09, 2006 - 07:14 AM UTC
Thanks Jason. I'm pretty sure that it will be a mid 70's Gemany model.

TX again for the links!

cheers
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Posted: Thursday, November 09, 2006 - 07:39 AM UTC
Thank you both Jim and Jason. I was thinking the old A1, but had completely forgotten we even had the A3's.
Then again, Im in Kingston with the Communications and Electronics reserve units. Most of what we have are light and medium trucks, jeeps, and a few green painted pickups.
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Posted: Thursday, November 09, 2006 - 03:16 PM UTC
Go and check out this link:
http://wsw-modellbau.de/
they have an interior for an M577 at a price of Euro 49,-

Gé Hovens

sorry !! try http://wsw-modellbau.de/23611.html
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Posted: Thursday, November 09, 2006 - 08:55 PM UTC
The WSW resin conversion for the M577 interior is for the Bundeswehr variant....no fancy bucket seats in the older M577A1.
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