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Cotton Ball Camo
Muratti
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Posted: Sunday, November 12, 2006 - 12:29 PM UTC
Hello all

I want to try the "cotton ball camouflage" technique on two Tamiya models I perked out yesterday (yes both the same day) , the Marder II and the Pzkpfw II which are basically the same chassis with a litte different superstructure. I want to apply the camo pattern to them and use the same tactical insignias with different unit markings.

Now comes the question : how do I use the "cotton ball technique" for the common "splotchy" patterns ? I do not want to use a mask or freehand patterns since there will be an awful lot of differences as I go...

Thanks already for the info.

Best regards
troubble27
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Posted: Sunday, November 12, 2006 - 09:59 PM UTC
I would reccomend using "silly putty" instead of the cotton balls. Do a search on here, and you should find some posts on the technique. In my experience, it works better, and is easier.

bison44
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Posted: Sunday, November 12, 2006 - 11:31 PM UTC
Hi Muratti: You are using an airbrush to paint? If so you could also try using blue-tac (the sticky blue stuff you can buy for sticking poster to your wall). You can use it much the same way as the silly putty. If you want less defined softer edge to splotchy pattern, try cutting out irregular patterns of paper or cardboard and sticking them to the model with the silly putty/blue tac, having the ball of putty etc underneath the center of the mask will keep it from being directly against the plastic. Then spray away. Raising it off the model even just a bit tends to soften up the edges, so the pattern looks a little more splotchy. Then peel off the masks, and you can use them again on both of the kits you are building.
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Posted: Monday, November 13, 2006 - 01:05 AM UTC
I've only tried the "cotton-ball" method once, many years ago on a Tamiya Tiger. The instructions suggested this method using wallpaper paste to attach the cotton balls. Well I ended up with a tank with bits of cotton wool permanently attached to it, removal of which wrecked the paint already applied. I concluded that this was not a good method, & would not recommend it. I have used masks ever since. It's quite easy to make them up from card for each job, & moving them nearer or further from the model creates a firmer or more blurred edge. I've never tried the "Silly Putty" method (don't know what it's called over here (Play-Doh?), so can't comment. On the whole I would persevere with getting the best from the airbrush, change nozzle & needle for a finer one & spray freehand.
Muratti
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Posted: Monday, November 13, 2006 - 12:27 PM UTC

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Hi Muratti: You are using an airbrush to paint? If so you could also try using blue-tac (the sticky blue stuff you can buy for sticking poster to your wall). You can use it much the same way as the silly putty. If you want less defined softer edge to splotchy pattern, try cutting out irregular patterns of paper or cardboard and sticking them to the model with the silly putty/blue tac, having the ball of putty etc underneath the center of the mask will keep it from being directly against the plastic. Then spray away. Raising it off the model even just a bit tends to soften up the edges, so the pattern looks a little more splotchy. Then peel off the masks, and you can use them again on both of the kits you are building.




This sure does sound good. I will go for this one.

Further, does anyone think vaseline splotches could help as masking agents ? I remember a guy (he was the grampa of a German pal of mine aged some 85 or so who was in command of a Panther G) telling me that they used to paint the tanks with anything they could find including brooms etc.

He also had told me that when a high commander was to visit the front they would mask off the windows etc of the vehicles with axle grease and spray fresh paint so the outfit would look neat and tidy. (Before the D day of course I presume) This gave me the vaseline idea since it will be the scaled down equivalent of axle grease...

Plasticbattle
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Posted: Monday, November 13, 2006 - 12:44 PM UTC

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On the whole I would persevere with getting the best from the airbrush, change nozzle & needle for a finer one & spray freehand.


Id have to go with Steve on this one. For the blotch result, it should be quite easy. Hold the brush near the surface and lower the pressure. Masking tends to give a hard-edge which is not necessary and anything else is creating more work. Keep your paint thin, and when weathered, should look fine.
Even brush painting the camo with a dry brush will give a very nice effect. This is easily controlled as well.
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