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Armor and ground forces of the Allied forces during World War II.
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Sherman Add-on
Kristensen
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Posted: Thursday, November 16, 2006 - 03:20 PM UTC
Hi,

Anyone know wher to find some reference pictures, where Verlinden's Sherman Add-on can be seen.

http://www.verlinden-productions.com/vp_htm_1801_2400/2121.html

kristensen
ericadeane
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Posted: Thursday, November 16, 2006 - 06:21 PM UTC
The plates to the turret and glacis have appeared in photos. The 4th Armored Div (among others) used this configuration. The ones protecting the suspension are unknown to me. I couuld be wrong but it may just be Verlinden fantasy stuff.

At the time of the up armoring, the units were getting HVSS (23 inch wide) M4A3s -- they had extended (and fairly flimsy) fender extensions. There's no way they could have supported armor plates like that.

Maybe Verlinden is suggesting that they be armor for the hulls instead? There was some efforts to up-armor the hulls. Maybe the kit photographer or assembler didn't know that those plates were to go on the upper hull's sides?

Just a guess...
Hollowpoint
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Posted: Thursday, November 16, 2006 - 06:31 PM UTC
The bolt heads on that set look to be about 6-8 inches across. Way out of scale.

A hot link:

http://www.verlinden-productions.com/vp_htm_1801_2400/2121.html
chefchris
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Posted: Thursday, November 16, 2006 - 06:46 PM UTC
I think this set is pure fantasy. I beleive that they were tyring to represent the late stage Okinawa Shermans that were heavily uparmored.

Bob, I think you are right about the bolts - WAYYY over scale.

Chris
RichardM
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Posted: Thursday, November 16, 2006 - 06:53 PM UTC
That look like a Warhammer 40k tank :-) Everything seems overscale.
ericadeane
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Posted: Thursday, November 16, 2006 - 07:24 PM UTC
If anyone remembers the "Verlinden Turd in a Box" joke from a while ago, this set may qualify!

I'm almost positive that they wanted to replicate the armor as seen in European M4A3 76s (like in the excellent DML M4A3E8 Thunderbolt kit). No 76mm tanks were sent to the Pacific.
jimbrae
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Posted: Thursday, November 16, 2006 - 08:55 PM UTC

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I'm almost positive that they wanted to replicate the armor as seen in European M4A3 76s (like in the excellent DML M4A3E8 Thunderbolt kit). No 76mm tanks were sent to the Pacific.



I think you're right - Also in scale reckoning it would be a chunk of armor off the Missouri.... M4a1 (76) with Schurzen = Verlinden's Fantasy World (again). Not even worth considering IMO...
exer
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Posted: Thursday, November 16, 2006 - 09:16 PM UTC
The thickness of the add on armour in 1/35 scale should be roughly 1.5-1.7 mm. The Verlinden panels look thicker. As the others have said the side panels are AFAIK imaginary. The add on armour might be up for grabs from some one that is not using the set supplied with the Thunderbolt VII kit (Although you will need to tweak the turret panels) or alternatively buy a sheet of 1.5 mm styrene and make it yourself.
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