Was wondering if the red/brown automotive primer used today is a decent match for the german red oxide primer used in WW2 AFV's?
Dave
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Red Oxide Primer
Mojo
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Posted: Friday, November 17, 2006 - 07:36 PM UTC
Posted: Thursday, November 23, 2006 - 08:12 AM UTC
FWIW, I use it.
Preserved StuGs in Finland's armor museum include trainers that are cut-away. The oxide looks very red:
http://www.thetankmaster.com/english/afv/parola_4.asp
http://www.kevos4.com/Wartime%20Photos%204.htm
Preserved StuGs in Finland's armor museum include trainers that are cut-away. The oxide looks very red:
http://www.thetankmaster.com/english/afv/parola_4.asp
http://www.kevos4.com/Wartime%20Photos%204.htm
ixslashxi
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Posted: Thursday, November 23, 2006 - 08:13 AM UTC
Hi ,
in correlation iwas wandering which color of which brand shulod i use for red oxyde,tnd is there any vallejo one?
thanx so much
in correlation iwas wandering which color of which brand shulod i use for red oxyde,tnd is there any vallejo one?
thanx so much
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Posted: Thursday, November 23, 2006 - 08:16 AM UTC
go to canadien tire in the paint section, they have red oxide primer at my store... not sure how accurate when dry but it looked good on the can
Frank
Frank
Posted: Thursday, November 23, 2006 - 08:34 AM UTC
Well,for a further FWIW,one of the world's largest producers of Iron Oxide is Bayer AG of Germany.In all likelyhood,they produced the primer for the tank factorys during the war years.Since Iron oxide is a derivative of the steel making process,Bayer probably obtains it from the mills in the Ruhr valley where the Panzer flesh was spawned.
So when you shoot red primer on your MkIV,you actually might be adding a little bit of it's namesakes ancestor on it!
Cheers!
So when you shoot red primer on your MkIV,you actually might be adding a little bit of it's namesakes ancestor on it!
Cheers!
Posted: Thursday, November 23, 2006 - 02:58 PM UTC
Hi Dave,
I use Humbrol Matt 70, which is very close I think.
Cheers
Al
I use Humbrol Matt 70, which is very close I think.
Cheers
Al
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Posted: Thursday, November 23, 2006 - 05:08 PM UTC
hi McNeilly
do you happen to know if there's a maker that makes the red oxide specifically?
heard something about model master,but I'm not sure though...
thanx guys
do you happen to know if there's a maker that makes the red oxide specifically?
heard something about model master,but I'm not sure though...
thanx guys
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Posted: Sunday, November 26, 2006 - 09:12 PM UTC
I.ve usdes krylons primer on German tanks and it looked great with the camo applies over it.
Posted: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 02:53 AM UTC
Tamiya XF-9 Hull Red looks good
HTH
Andy
HTH
Andy
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Posted: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 03:53 AM UTC
Thanks for the replies fellas.. I went with a rattle can of automotive red primer.. In all honesty, it dosent look half bad.. It was for the bay in which the motar carrier sits in on my Karl. Should post a few pictures and update the beast..
Dave
Dave
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Posted: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 05:35 AM UTC
I use Tamiya xf-64(red brown) + xf-7 (flat red) mix for the red-oxide primer color. Personally I find hull red a little dark. Here is a pic for comparison, the inset photo was taken from the internet for comparison....
Hope this helps
Hope this helps