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M41 Walker Bulldog Questions
mikado
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Posted: Monday, November 20, 2006 - 06:13 AM UTC
I need some help....

Was M41 Walker Bulldog stationed in Germany ever painted in MERDEC Winter Verdant camo scheme ? (i.e Green, Brown, tan and black ?)

Any reference picture available ?

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Posted: Monday, November 20, 2006 - 06:16 AM UTC
Nope, the M41 was long gone from US service when MERDC came out in the mid '70s. M41s were only around for a few years in the '50s. Some other countries may have applied MERDC to them though. Lots of countries used them through the years, there are still some in use in South and Central America today.
mikado
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Posted: Monday, November 20, 2006 - 06:21 AM UTC
Thanks Gino.....apprecaite your help....:-)
dexter059
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Posted: Monday, November 20, 2006 - 06:56 AM UTC
If youīre looking for some interesting camo schemes for the little Bulldog, you gotta check the ones used by the Brazilian and Chilean Army, some of those tanks are still in service. And the markings are not difficult to make at home

Cheers
mikado
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Posted: Monday, November 20, 2006 - 08:24 AM UTC
Hi Klaus,

I like your suggestion....

Do you have any web link that can point me to some reference picture of the chilean or Brizillian little bulldog?

BTW, what language does Chilean speaks ? Is it german ...I don't understand german ....

Thanks in advance....:-)


dexter059
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Posted: Monday, November 20, 2006 - 08:56 AM UTC
Donīt worry, spanish itīs the language of Chile, Iīm just a chilean of german ancestors :-)

Canīt help you with the brazilian Bulldogs, but hereīs a link to chilean M41:

Chilean M41

Itīs a free MSN Photo Group, there are 4 pages worth of pics. Here are some examples:




Here you have some marking references to print your own decals:




If you need help with stencil numerals, just check the pics and ask me for help.

Hope it helps

Cheers
mikado
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Posted: Monday, November 20, 2006 - 10:14 AM UTC
Klaus ..... Thanks for the link....

Will check the map to find where Chile is in South America :-)
dexter059
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Posted: Monday, November 20, 2006 - 06:30 PM UTC

Quoted Text

Klaus ..... Thanks for the link....

Will check the map to find where Chile is in South America :-)



Hereīs a link to Wikipedia for more info about my country, it has a few mistakes, but itīs generally correct:

CHILE

The Map:
(Source, www.wikipedia.org)

Cheers
tanknick22
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Posted: Sunday, March 09, 2014 - 04:03 AM UTC

Quoted Text

If youīre looking for some interesting camo schemes for the little Bulldog, you gotta check the ones used by the Brazilian and Chilean Army, some of those tanks are still in service. And the markings are not difficult to make at home

Cheers



I just bought a bison decal set for south american tanks markings for chile and brazilthey cover sherman firefies, M24 with the 60mm hvgs and m41
iowabrit
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Posted: Sunday, March 09, 2014 - 04:43 AM UTC
Great pics Klaus, unfortunately your link doesn't work for me.
ossie262
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Posted: Monday, March 10, 2014 - 06:45 AM UTC
i am interested in different m41 users and modifications ,
also sorry unable to link to pictures. it does not work for me.

thanks
Frenchy
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Posted: Monday, March 10, 2014 - 07:05 AM UTC
Brazilian Army M41's history :

http://www.ecsbdefesa.com.br/fts/M41.pdf

H.P.
trahe
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Posted: Monday, March 10, 2014 - 07:39 AM UTC
I think the Royal Thai Army still has a couple hundred M41 (A3's, I think) in service. Not sure what kind of camouflage they may have applied...
18Bravo
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Posted: Monday, March 10, 2014 - 09:14 AM UTC

Quoted Text

i am interested in different m41 users and modifications ,
also sorry unable to link to pictures. it does not work for me.

thanks



Your friends right there at Accurate Armour make a nice Danish M41 conversion.
sherman-vc
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Posted: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 - 02:16 AM UTC
Hi Klaus,

I too can't get the link to work. I am very much interested in the Chilean M41s and M24s. I have not been able to get much in the way of the engine decks of either, correct me if I am wrong but I think the engines have been upgraded on Chile's M41 and M24 fleet as well in the 75mm gun on the M24 had been replaced with the 60mm gun used on the Chilean M50s. If you can help out that would be great.

Regards,
Rod
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Posted: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 - 06:47 AM UTC

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Nope, the M41 was long gone from US service when MERDC came out in the mid '70s. M41s were only around for a few years in the '50s. Some other countries may have applied MERDC to them though. Lots of countries used them through the years, there are still some in use in South and Central America today.



NG and Reserve units used the M41 well into the 1970's. Never saw one that wasn't painted O.D. green. I think I may have saw a couple Vietnamese tracks that were camouflaged. Plus it seems like Thialand and Taiwan camouflaged theirs. Perhaps Germany?
gary
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Posted: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 - 07:48 AM UTC
Chilean M24's :









M41's (from an earlier post by Klaus) :





Uruguayan M41 :





Upgraded Taiwanese M41D :



Full size

H.P.
sherman-vc
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Posted: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 - 10:10 AM UTC
Thanks for posting those photos Henri.

But you know you have only teased a few of us with them.

Looks like the Chilean M24s received new power trains as well as new guns the rear deck does not look anything like the WWII version of the M24, also the rear of the hull is changed. Anyone have good photos of the rear deck and rear of the hull.

With the Chilean M41s did they receive new power trains as well or did they continue to use the original power train. I assume the M41s and M24s have been retired from service since Chile acquired Leopards and AMX tanks correct me if I am wrong.

Regards,
Rod
tanknick22
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Posted: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 - 12:00 PM UTC
[quote]Thanks for posting those photos Henri.

But you know you have only teased a few of us with them.

Looks like the Chilean M24s received new power trains as well as new guns the rear deck does not look anything like the WWII version of the M24, also the rear of the hull is changed. Anyone have good photos of the rear deck and rear of the hull.

With the Chilean M41s did they receive new power trains as well or did they continue to use the original power train. I assume the M41s and M24s have been retired from service since Chile acquired Leopards and AMX tanks correct me if I am wrong.

Regards,
Rod

Rod
If you notice in the one pic of the chilean M24 with the 60mm gun there is a m41 behind it and as far as i can tell it still has the old engine deck
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