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Armor and ground forces of the Allied forces during World War II.
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M10 finished,Need your comments
reichsfox
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Posted: Friday, December 01, 2006 - 03:46 PM UTC
Hi,
The tank was airbrush in Tamiya's oliver green added some white directly,and only a few detailed were added.
Maybe the bags on the turrnt are disappointing.
But just tell me where need to be improved. Much thanks



MonkeyGun
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Posted: Friday, December 01, 2006 - 03:52 PM UTC
Hi Reichsfox

Your M10 looks great

The tracks are very nicely done and the streaking on the hull is very effective,

Great work

Ian
keenan
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Posted: Friday, December 01, 2006 - 04:52 PM UTC
Looks really nice overall. I suspect you are unhappy with the bags on the turret because they are too monochromatic. All that stuff was made at different places with different dye lots. If you paint them several different shades of your base color it really helps. Add a little dark brown to your base color and paint a couple with that. Add a little white and paint a couple of the other ones. Also, painting the straps a different shade helps break up the monotony too.
Also, one more minor suggestion. You could put a flat plate made out of sheet styrene stock across the faces of the spare road wheels. Shave a bolt head off a spare part and glue it in the center of the plate. It will make it look like the wheels are bolted to hull instead of just glued there.

Couple of good examples of both are at the link below.

HTH,
Shaun

http://www.missing-lynx.com/gallery/usa/m10_benharous.html
barron
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Posted: Friday, December 01, 2006 - 05:40 PM UTC
Great job. I like the weathering.
Gunfighter
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Posted: Friday, December 01, 2006 - 06:13 PM UTC
Looks really good. Nice mix of streaking, rust, and some light chipping. It's easy to overdo those and I personally think you've done a great job on them.

The only thing I see is the on left lift hook on the turret. Looks to be a small gap where the hook isn't completely into a locating hole. Plus, the rust is a little more stark there and could be toned down just slightly.

Other than that, I like it alot!

- Frank
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Posted: Friday, December 01, 2006 - 06:19 PM UTC
Guys,

Considering this is the ancient Tamiya motorized kit (or its Academy clone), I'd say this thing looks fantastic! Yeah, some minor issues with the kitbags and such, but overall, you've turned this old dog into something to be proud of.

Rob
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Posted: Friday, December 01, 2006 - 06:30 PM UTC
Robert,
I agree it looks really nice. Fox said he thought the bags on turret were disapointing so I offered some suggestions on how he may make them better.

Shaun
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Posted: Friday, December 01, 2006 - 07:06 PM UTC
I think your M10 looks good! The only thing I can see that could be reworked a little is the road wheel on the side. They look stuck on instead of secured. Maybe you could fabricate some sort of holding bracket or such. Other than that good job!
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Posted: Friday, December 01, 2006 - 08:46 PM UTC

Quoted Text

Hi,
The tank was airbrush in Tamiya's oliver green added some white directly,and only a few detailed were added.
Maybe the bags on the turrnt are disappointing.
But just tell me where need to be improved. Much thanks



Hi Reichsfox,
I think it's very good. I have one I built but haven't weathered yet. The texture of the surface of yours is so good you've inspired me to finish weathering mine. I have mine posted in my photo gallery if you want to see it but like I said, it's a work in progress!

Cheers,
Gary
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Posted: Friday, December 01, 2006 - 10:25 PM UTC
The only suggestion I can offer is to paint the shell portion of the rounds in the ready racks inside the turret so there's a demarcation between the brass casings and the rounds. IIRC they should be black for AP rounds and dark green for HE but not 100% certain.
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Posted: Saturday, December 02, 2006 - 12:32 AM UTC

Quoted Text

Looks really nice overall. I suspect you are unhappy with the bags on the turret because they are too monochromatic. All that stuff was made at different places with different dye lots. If you paint them several different shades of your base color it really helps. Add a little dark brown to your base color and paint a couple with that. Add a little white and paint a couple of the other ones. Also, painting the straps a different shade helps break up the monotony too.
Also, one more minor suggestion. You could put a flat plate made out of sheet styrene stock across the faces of the spare road wheels. Shave a bolt head off a spare part and glue it in the center of the plate. It will make it look like the wheels are bolted to hull instead of just glued there.

Couple of good examples of both are at the link below.

HTH,
Shaun

http://www.missing-lynx.com/gallery/usa/m10_benharous.html



I agree with Shaun, just a few easy tweaks that would definately go a long way without any deconstruction.
reichsfox
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Posted: Saturday, December 02, 2006 - 10:56 AM UTC
Thank you guys. and special thanks to Shaun!
Hope my next work with be better.
Halaci
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Posted: Saturday, December 02, 2006 - 04:32 PM UTC
Maybe one more thing. I am not 100% sure, but I think that the ammo box for 0.5 MG is not gunmetal but olive, together with its rack.
james84
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Posted: Saturday, December 02, 2006 - 05:51 PM UTC
I agree with you: the bags have to be removed.
But it's good overall!
no-neck
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Posted: Saturday, December 02, 2006 - 06:33 PM UTC
Good looking build. I agree that you need to break up the uniform color of the personal packs. Put a stain or two on some.It maybe to late but you do need to paint the "slug" on ammo. For a home away from home It also looks a bit too neat. Five guys lived in these. They wouldn't wipe their feet or be real careful about spilling stuff.
gbkirsch
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Posted: Thursday, December 07, 2006 - 11:31 PM UTC

Quoted Text

The tank was airbrush in Tamiya's oliver green added some white directly,and only a few detailed were added.
Maybe the bags on the turrnt are disappointing.
But just tell me where need to be improved. Much thanks



I was inspired by your M10 so I went back and worked on the weathering on mine some more...




Gary
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Posted: Thursday, December 07, 2006 - 11:34 PM UTC
Two nice jobs. Can someone comment on the size of the antenna the Reichfox vehicle? Seems to me to be way too small for a WW II Crystal Set.
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Posted: Friday, December 08, 2006 - 03:07 AM UTC
Hi Reichsfox, That is a lovely tank!

The paint job is nice and the weathering is really subtle.

Why not post a few notes on how you did it!

May I mention one small but important point... The rounds inside the turret would have been strapped in place. There's nothing quite like live ammo bouncing around inside a tank to make someone wet themselves.

I was once standing next to a bloke who dropped a mortar round on its nose. We knew it wouldn't go off but we "educated" him all the same.

Perhaps you might paint straps on or add them from tinfoil?

Just a thought.
gbkirsch
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Posted: Friday, December 08, 2006 - 10:45 PM UTC

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Two nice jobs. Can someone comment on the size of the antenna the Reichfox vehicle? Seems to me to be way too small for a WW II Crystal Set.



I think you are correct, needs to be longer.

Gary
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Posted: Saturday, December 09, 2006 - 02:28 AM UTC
Hi Gary Thnx for posting your M10 as well. I noted two things you might want to correct:

your frontmost and rearmost bogie wheels are riding up due to your vinyl tracks. They should be glued with the bogie wheel pushing down on the track -- I call it the Italeri M4A1 suspension syndrome (where the VVS bogie arms incorrectly rock back and forth).

Secondly, look at your references and note that the cant of the open drivers' hatches is different than how you've angled them. They splay more flat and towards the front.

gbkirsch
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Posted: Sunday, December 10, 2006 - 10:01 AM UTC

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your frontmost and rearmost bogie wheels are riding up due to your vinyl tracks. They should be glued with the bogie wheel pushing down on the track -- I call it the Italeri M4A1 suspension syndrome (where the VVS bogie arms incorrectly rock back and forth).

Secondly, look at your references and note that the cant of the open drivers' hatches is different than how you've angled them. They splay more flat and towards the front.



Thanks for the suggestions Roy. Much appreciated!

Gary
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Posted: Sunday, December 10, 2006 - 09:48 PM UTC
Gary-- nice job. Show more of your work.
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Posted: Sunday, December 10, 2006 - 10:36 PM UTC
Very nicely painted. I am always striving for a look similar to that, so I cannot give you any criticism from a lesser painter.
gbkirsch
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Posted: Monday, December 11, 2006 - 06:40 AM UTC

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Gary-- nice job. Show more of your work.



Thanks for asking Cavalry!!!

I don't know if another shot of the M10 was what you meant but now that I finally finished weathering it and as I want to quit before I screw it up, here it is...As far as Roy's comments which as I said are much appreciated, in this shot, it's nice to have the bogey wheel assemblies free so that I can pose the model on uneven terrain. As far as the hatches, I will have to wait until I build another one as I can't budge these without messing them up. It's a great comment though so I will better research things like hatch positioning next time I build any model!



Cheers, Gary

Oh, and I used a machine gunner from a very old model for the sake of positioning but he's not staying...
reichsfox
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Posted: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 - 06:23 PM UTC
Hi,Gary,
Your M10 is also inpirating.
Your model is totally another style from mine,maybe I'll have a try next time.

Reichsfox
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