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German Head Set #66
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Posted: Friday, December 01, 2006 - 11:05 PM UTC
Here''s a quick look at a new head set from Warriors.

German Head Set #66



If you have comments or questions please post them here.

Thanks!
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Posted: Friday, December 01, 2006 - 11:10 PM UTC
Emm... I thought the German hemet was fairly straightforward item to research. Just what is it with these peculiar flaps? Engineer helmets?
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Posted: Friday, December 01, 2006 - 11:36 PM UTC

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Emm... I thought the German hemet was fairly straightforward item to research. Just what is it with these peculiar flaps? Engineer helmets?


From the phots, I think the helmets are the 1918 "cavalry" helmet which had cutouts in front of or above the ear (haven't got my references with me).

So when viewed from the front, it looks as if the sides of the helmet are like flaps.

John
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Posted: Friday, December 01, 2006 - 11:41 PM UTC

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From the phots, I think the helmets are the 1918 "cavalry" helmet which had cutouts in front of or above the ear (haven't got my references with me).


That would make considerably more sense then. Problem is, the market is exactly overflowing with Uhlan (or any other German Cavalry) in 1/35th scale... :-)
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Posted: Saturday, December 02, 2006 - 12:32 AM UTC
Hi
It could also be a fireman (although I'm not sure). There are some various shapes of german helmets on this site : http://www.feuerwehr-helm-museum.de/
Maybe, it's some kind on contest Warriors has started : the one who gets the right guess wins the set !
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Posted: Saturday, December 02, 2006 - 01:07 AM UTC
Hmm.....I did actually think of Firemen! :-) Whatever they eventually turn out to be it would be helpful if they actually labelled them as such, instead of just 'German Heads'.

Vinnie
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Posted: Saturday, December 02, 2006 - 01:35 AM UTC

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Emm... I thought the German hemet was fairly straightforward item to research. Just what is it with these peculiar flaps? Engineer helmets?


From the photos, I think the helmets are the 1918 "cavalry" helmet which had cutouts in front of or above the ear (haven't got my references with me).

So when viewed from the front, it looks as if the sides of the helmet are like flaps.

John


The helmets on the heads represent the Luftschutz helmet.
Luftschutz was a Civil Defense type of organisation, engaged in tasks such as relief duties after air raids - kind of like the British ARP.

Plenty of info about German helmets here - interesting to note that the Luftschutz organisation used several types of helmet during their existence.
A quick Google search brings up a mountain of information on the organisation.

It's also possible/likely that these helmets were worn by Volksturm personnel...

$0.02

acav out
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Posted: Saturday, December 02, 2006 - 04:31 PM UTC

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Whatever they eventually turn out to be it would be helpful if they actually labelled them as such, instead of just 'German Heads'.


My point exactly...
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Posted: Sunday, December 03, 2006 - 05:07 AM UTC
Hello,
This is the Luftschultz helmets. They were worn by AA batteries firemen and the Volkssturm. They came in colors from black to blue and i once saw a white one with a red cross on it. Also called the Gladiator helmet. Some carried a decal on the front with the words Luftschultz. I hope this helps. Regards Brock
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Posted: Sunday, December 03, 2006 - 06:56 AM UTC
I have not come accross (m)any pictures of these helmets, and definitely not for the Volkssturm, who seem to have been issued mainly with field caps or 'ordinairy' helmets, if not with just an armband. That's not to say they where not worn...



Mind you, expressionless perhaps, but then Herr Schumacher was never one for overt emotions...

Cheers

Henk
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Posted: Sunday, December 03, 2006 - 12:53 PM UTC

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This is the Luftschultz helmets. They were worn by AA batteries firemen and the Volkssturm


Well nice to get some kind of resolution on this one, I still stand by my previous point that Warriors should consider a revision of their system of labelling the products...

Putting the puring stub on TOP of the helmet is also an 'issue' they should deal with - plenty of space below the neck...
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Posted: Sunday, December 03, 2006 - 03:19 PM UTC

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Putting the puring stub on TOP of the helmet is also an 'issue' they should deal with - plenty of space below the neck...



No doubt... But are we certain that the 'stub' isn't part of the helmet? And I agree with the Mr. Branigan that they are quite uninspiring expressions... Looks like a police line-up...
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Posted: Sunday, December 03, 2006 - 03:33 PM UTC

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No doubt... But are we certain that the 'stub' isn't part of the helmet?


ROFL! :-) :-) :-) :-)
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Posted: Monday, December 04, 2006 - 04:40 AM UTC

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I have not come accross (m)any pictures of these helmets, and definitely not for the Volkssturm, who seem to have been issued mainly with field caps or 'ordinairy' helmets, if not with just an armband. That's not to say they where not worn...



Mind you, expressionless perhaps, but then Herr Schumacher was never one for overt emotions...

Cheers

Henk

They are in fact Luftschutz helmets and were issued to the volksturm, but were not general issue to them(if there was such a thing). On a side note, I have had a couple of these heads for sometime now got them direct from John Rosengrant or Chris Mrosko and inspite of the mould plug they are quite nice.
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Posted: Monday, December 04, 2006 - 05:21 AM UTC
Here is a pic of the Luftschultz helment. Regards Brock
http://i17.ebayimg.com/01/i/000/7b/fb/379a_1.JPG
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