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Best oils for basic pin washes?
kevinb120
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Posted: Saturday, December 02, 2006 - 04:55 AM UTC
I have been using windsor and newton oils for washes but I think they are the basic brand(winton series?) version. They don't stay consistantly diluted and seem a bit 'grainy'. What oil/thinners have the finest pigments and keep the mix consistant?
AJLaFleche
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Posted: Saturday, December 02, 2006 - 05:48 AM UTC
Chhose artist grade, rather than student, for the finnest pigment. I use simple dollar a gallon thinner and have no problems.
jlmurc
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Posted: Saturday, December 02, 2006 - 05:57 AM UTC
Kevin,
I am extremely impressed with the new Abteilung 502 oil paints that are being sold under the Mig productions label.
I bought a small number just to see what they are like as they come in a series of interesting colours, although not all are aimed at Armour modellers, but they are fantastic, dissolve into the thinner in a moment, remain in a better suspension than even the top of the range W&N paints that I have, flow beautifully and come as I said in some interesting and useful colours, some of them also compliment the Mig Pigments. Are they made from the same material? Somebody might be able to say, but well worth the reasonable sum of money. I will admit that they are not in the biggest of tubes, but will last a long time anyway.
I'd say give them a go, I am sure you will be pleased.
John
I am extremely impressed with the new Abteilung 502 oil paints that are being sold under the Mig productions label.
I bought a small number just to see what they are like as they come in a series of interesting colours, although not all are aimed at Armour modellers, but they are fantastic, dissolve into the thinner in a moment, remain in a better suspension than even the top of the range W&N paints that I have, flow beautifully and come as I said in some interesting and useful colours, some of them also compliment the Mig Pigments. Are they made from the same material? Somebody might be able to say, but well worth the reasonable sum of money. I will admit that they are not in the biggest of tubes, but will last a long time anyway.
I'd say give them a go, I am sure you will be pleased.
John
drumthumper
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Posted: Saturday, December 02, 2006 - 05:57 AM UTC
Kevin,
I just picked up a selection of 502 Abteilung oils and they are incredible. Specifically formulated for washes and "filters" the pigmentation of this brand is some of the finest I've ever seen ... and I've been around art all my life! I've used them briefly and can highly recommend them.
Mike Kirchoff
I just picked up a selection of 502 Abteilung oils and they are incredible. Specifically formulated for washes and "filters" the pigmentation of this brand is some of the finest I've ever seen ... and I've been around art all my life! I've used them briefly and can highly recommend them.
Mike Kirchoff
jlmurc
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Posted: Saturday, December 02, 2006 - 05:58 AM UTC
Hey Mike........Snap.........
John
John
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Posted: Saturday, December 02, 2006 - 06:32 AM UTC
I'll agree on the MIG 502 Oils. I too just received a handful and they thin and are finer than the Windsor & Newton Artist Series that I have been buying. The W&N are a good choice, though.
- Frank
- Frank
kevinb120
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Posted: Saturday, December 02, 2006 - 08:53 AM UTC
I need to try something like that then. I just am not getting the desired results with standard oil paints. I used to use diluted enamels and have been stuck on using oils since I started building again after a 15 year hiatus and have had no luck with it. I am not big on washes over simply airbrushing effects so I almost exclusively do pin washes unless its a wheel or weapon(I don't really like heavilly weathered stuff to start with but a wash is pretty much manditory).... I'm gonna have to track down at least black, grey, and umber Thanks for the advice!