Aloha everyone,Forgive me if this question has already been asked, but in your opinions how far off are these particular offerings from Trumpeter in terms of accuracy? And are there any detail sets on the market for them?
Thank You!!
Kurt
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Trumpeters Type 85II, 96, & 98?
poibruddah
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Posted: Sunday, December 03, 2006 - 09:29 AM UTC
Aloha everyone,Forgive me if this question has already been asked, but in your opinions how far off are these particular offerings from Trumpeter in terms of accuracy? And are there any detail sets on the market for them?
Thank You!!
Kurt
confedyankee
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Posted: Sunday, December 03, 2006 - 10:33 AM UTC
hi kurt i have built a few of these. the s tank was a nice kit .but the japanese .n b c kit didn't go together good at all . still have a few to build from trumpeter like chinese type 69, japanese command post, brazil os orio, the upgraded s tank, and the chinese type 75 recoilless rifle and i built the type 88 korean tank that was the worst hope this helps you
james84
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Posted: Sunday, December 03, 2006 - 11:54 AM UTC
I think they are older than the KV series or the Sturer Emil, which are quite nice and fit well, but I think they have the same standard... 
bison126
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Posted: Sunday, December 03, 2006 - 12:08 PM UTC
Hi,
I can't comment on the Type96 but I built the other two and I agree with Gary they are more toylike than anything else. They need a good documentation and a lot of time to render "well". Their main flaw is the electric engine arrangement in the old Tamiya kits fashion.
The details are quite soft, the guns are oddly looking, the various screws securing the body halves or the roadwheels are not concealed by any kind of a cap and you could add a lot more.
You can have a look at my try with the Type98 on my site (click my banner)
Olivier
I can't comment on the Type96 but I built the other two and I agree with Gary they are more toylike than anything else. They need a good documentation and a lot of time to render "well". Their main flaw is the electric engine arrangement in the old Tamiya kits fashion.
The details are quite soft, the guns are oddly looking, the various screws securing the body halves or the roadwheels are not concealed by any kind of a cap and you could add a lot more.
You can have a look at my try with the Type98 on my site (click my banner)
Olivier
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Posted: Sunday, December 03, 2006 - 02:08 PM UTC
Be very carefull with some of the old Trumpeter kits. The old ones are very bad, while the new ones are pretty good.
I have just build the KV-2 and it is a very nice kit. Now for the painting so it can be part of the "arty up" campaign.
I have just build the KV-2 and it is a very nice kit. Now for the painting so it can be part of the "arty up" campaign.
jimbrae
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Posted: Sunday, December 03, 2006 - 02:12 PM UTC
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I think they are older than the KV series or the Sturer Emil, which are quite nice and fit well, but I think they have the same standard
The standard of the EARLY Trumpeter kits has NOTHING whatsoever to do with the more recent (at least the last couple of years) releases. The 'new' Trumpeter kits are absolutely excellent - to same they are of the same standard is utterly incorrect.
Jacques
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Posted: Sunday, December 03, 2006 - 09:43 PM UTC
First generation Trumpeter kits were cheap knock-offs of tamiya kits.
Second Generation Trumpeter kits were poor motorized original kits (toys).
Third Generation kits, starting with the T-55 series and the tank transporters, actually put them into new creative model kits. Trumpeter has improved vastly.
The 85II, 96 and 98 are essentially the only game in town. They also have very few references available due to the secrecy of the chinese military. They would require quitte a bit of work to make into respectable miniatures.
Second Generation Trumpeter kits were poor motorized original kits (toys).
Third Generation kits, starting with the T-55 series and the tank transporters, actually put them into new creative model kits. Trumpeter has improved vastly.
The 85II, 96 and 98 are essentially the only game in town. They also have very few references available due to the secrecy of the chinese military. They would require quitte a bit of work to make into respectable miniatures.
poibruddah
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Posted: Sunday, December 03, 2006 - 11:07 PM UTC
[quote]Hi,
I can't comment on the Type96........
Thank you all for your knowledge in this matter. Guess maybe Trumpeter has heard the "grumblings" from us modelers about their older kits since to date I have not seen the Type 96 even while it was announced "coming soon" some time ago. Might be a good thing eh? HA...HA...HA!
Aloha and happy modelling!!!
Kurt
I can't comment on the Type96........
Thank you all for your knowledge in this matter. Guess maybe Trumpeter has heard the "grumblings" from us modelers about their older kits since to date I have not seen the Type 96 even while it was announced "coming soon" some time ago. Might be a good thing eh? HA...HA...HA!
Aloha and happy modelling!!!
Kurt
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Posted: Sunday, December 03, 2006 - 11:10 PM UTC
As stated above, my first two Trumpeter kits were dogs (M60A1/A3 and Chinese Type 59B MBT). I shied away from them until I bought the M1A2 Abrams (decent) and Chinese BJ-212A Jeep with recoilless rifle. It is very nice little kit.
Since then, I have picked up a couple of the modern vehicles like the JGSDF Type 89 IFV, Wheeled Command Post, Strv 103C, Abrams Panther II, and a couple of WW2 kits, the H-35 and KV-I with simplified turret. All of these are respectable kits and rather inexpensive.
I did end up with a modern Chinese Type 98 MBT. It is more along the lines of the Type 59B and not like the newer kits.
Since then, I have picked up a couple of the modern vehicles like the JGSDF Type 89 IFV, Wheeled Command Post, Strv 103C, Abrams Panther II, and a couple of WW2 kits, the H-35 and KV-I with simplified turret. All of these are respectable kits and rather inexpensive.
I did end up with a modern Chinese Type 98 MBT. It is more along the lines of the Type 59B and not like the newer kits.
woodstock74
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Posted: Monday, December 04, 2006 - 07:25 AM UTC
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As stated above, my first two Trumpeter kits were dogs (M60A1/A3 and Chinese Type 59B MBT). I shied away from them until I bought the M1A2 Abrams (decent) and Chinese BJ-212A Jeep with recoilless rifle. It is very nice little kit.
Since then, I have picked up a couple of the modern vehicles like the JGSDF Type 89 IFV, Wheeled Command Post, Strv 103C, Abrams Panther II, and a couple of WW2 kits, the H-35 and KV-I with simplified turret. All of these are respectable kits and rather inexpensive.
I did end up with a modern Chinese Type 98 MBT. It is more along the lines of the Type 59B and not like the newer kits.
Yes, the Type 98 is a dissapointment. But as Jacques mentions, only game in town. Wish there was a greater market for upgrade kits given the 98 has evolved into the 99 and is vastly different. Ideal for a resin upgrade...
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