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Sandbags, how to make them
West7
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Posted: Friday, December 15, 2006 - 06:07 AM UTC
I appreciate all the help on aircraft scale and making a 1/35 diorama. I am planning my second diorama which will use a lot of sandbags. However, I don't want to "buy" them and would be interested in making them. I read over the milliput feature for making sandbags and I was interested in knowing what you all use in making sandbags.

Thank you for your time and consideration.
dad4
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Posted: Friday, December 15, 2006 - 06:30 AM UTC
Hey John,

I've seen some guys actually make little bags and put putty or cheap kids clay into rolled up tissue paper and wet them down with diluted white glue. However, whenever I've made the sandbags I've used the milliput method. Just make sure that you keep the milliput moist when you mix it. I'm sure they've told you all you need to know in that article. I just think it's the easiest way of reproducing sandbags.

Brian
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Posted: Friday, December 15, 2006 - 08:43 AM UTC
Gday John
I'm a milliput sandbag kind of guy also...
I like the individual touch and the load stress you can affect on each one...
A personal gripe though is that people seem to make them a little larger than they should be...
You say that you will be using many, so is it safe to say it will be for some sort of emplacement?
Cheers
Brad
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Posted: Friday, December 15, 2006 - 07:34 PM UTC
Hi Brad,

You're right I'm gonna use them for a gun emplacement I'm planning. They will be used to protect an M110 howitzer in Viet Nam. From the pictures I've seen and from conversations I've had with one guy who actually manned one they use lots of bags to protect the gun.

It took a lot of searching to find the model for this one, but I finally got an italeria model in Canada.

John
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Posted: Saturday, December 16, 2006 - 10:50 AM UTC
Hi John

Yes I must agree with the other guys, epoxy putty / Miliput sandbags are the way to go, especially when you need a lot.

Good luck
Garth
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Posted: Saturday, December 16, 2006 - 03:21 PM UTC
Hi John. I used the milliput method as described by member Roadkill. Works great and is much better than any bought sandbags. The piece you work with, should do about 12 - 15 bags at a time, and this gives plenty of time to shape them, add some cloth defination and mark the seem at the sides.
Bradly quite rightly adds that sometimes they tend to be overscale. When used on a tank model, its even more noticeable, but if you make them too small on a base like your planning, its a lot of work.
In the image below, the greyish sand bags are1 box of the cheaper red/white box of milliput, and the white bags are the more expensive stuff (black/white box) to finish off. To be honest the cheaper stuff works and looks better for this!







The same method used on some Stuarts. The bags definately look oversized, but the method is easy and very useable.





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Posted: Saturday, December 16, 2006 - 04:27 PM UTC
I won't repeat anything said above.

I have done the same things and used Sculpy a bakable clay you can get at AC Moore or Michaels type stores.
West7
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Posted: Saturday, December 16, 2006 - 08:39 PM UTC
Nice Work Frank! They do look really good. I'm gonna have to try that.

John
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Posted: Friday, April 13, 2007 - 08:33 PM UTC
BTW: plasticbatlle you coundn't tell me who made that kubelwagon could you mate

thanks.
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