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USMC Mine Plow Abrams
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Posted: Monday, December 18, 2006 - 08:23 PM UTC
Hello guys!

I´m looking for good USMC mine plow Abrams pics. Could anybody help me?

Thanks!

Marcelo
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Posted: Monday, December 18, 2006 - 08:29 PM UTC
Well, this isnt the greatest picture, but its the only one I have on my computer.................



Hope that helps you out Marcelo

Gary
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Posted: Monday, December 18, 2006 - 08:31 PM UTC
I used to have a good photo of one from Desert Storm, but am unsure if I still have it uploaded anywhere. I will do a search of my gallery for it.
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Posted: Monday, December 18, 2006 - 09:14 PM UTC
Pete (Epi) got a couple of nice drawings from the manual in his Photobucket album

Erik
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Posted: Monday, December 18, 2006 - 09:31 PM UTC




I'll post some more when I get back on my own comp....


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Posted: Monday, December 18, 2006 - 09:40 PM UTC
after deep looking in my folders




hope it helps

,Gijs


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Posted: Monday, December 18, 2006 - 09:45 PM UTC
Most of the tanks in the above pics are in fact Army M1A1s ...

I'll send you what I have gathered.

Frenchy
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Posted: Monday, December 18, 2006 - 09:53 PM UTC

Quoted Text

Most of the tanks in the above pics are in fact Army M1A1s ...

I'll send you what I have gathered.

Frenchy


is there any differance between the army or marines plow??

,Gijs
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Posted: Monday, December 18, 2006 - 10:08 PM UTC
I'm no expert, but I think that one of the USMC mine plow distinctive features is the cylinder-shaped IMOD mine detonator hung between the 2 skids (instead of the "dog bone" on the Army plow ). This item is clearly visible on the picture showing "Big Payback". But maybe some Army plows are now fitted with the IMOD (as for the Army Panther II plow )

Talking about the pics above, just have a look at the smoke dischargers on the turret of the pictured tank to spot the USMC Abrams (8-shot dischargers vs 6-shot...)

HTH
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Posted: Monday, December 18, 2006 - 10:13 PM UTC
Hi Gijs
no, there's no difference between the plows, as far as I know, but between the tanks...
Abrams tanks in service with the marine corps have different smoke grenade launchers, a different style extended bustle rack, the "MCD" (missile countermeasure device, fitted on top of the "manhole" located left in front of the loaders hatch), a field telephone and a frame on the rear to attach the deep water fording kit

regards max
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Posted: Monday, December 18, 2006 - 10:40 PM UTC

Quoted Text

I'm no expert, but I think that one of the USMC mine plow distinctive features is the cylinder-shaped IMOD mine detonator hung between the 2 skids (instead of the "dog bone" on the Army plow ). This item is clearly visible on the picture showing "Big Payback". But maybe some Army plows are now fitted with the IMOD

Talking about the pics above, just have a look at the smoke dischargers on the turret of the pictured tank to spot the USMC Abrams...

HTH
Frenchy


i already saw the big cylilder between the skids but i do not know or it is on all the usmc plows


Quoted Text

Hi Gijs
no, there's no difference between the plows, as far as I know, but between the tanks...
Abrams tanks in service with the marine corps have different smoke grenade launchers, a different style extended bustle rack, the "MCD" (missile countermeasure device, fitted on top of the "manhole" located left in front of the loaders hatch), a field telephone and a frame on the rear to attach the deep water fording kit

regards max


all the difference between the army and usmc tank i knowed already


,Gijs





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Posted: Monday, December 18, 2006 - 10:52 PM UTC
Either Army or Marine M1A1's can have either type of "Dog Bone," you just have to look at the tank you are modeling. As Erik stated, you can look in my Photo Bucket album for parts breakdown of the plow. I don't have the parts breakdown for the large "Dog Bone," but I can just pull it of the ETM. They are both in the current Army parts manual for the plow..
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Posted: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 02:00 AM UTC
I concur with my esteemed colleagues. The plows are the same, with either type dogbone. The basic tanks have the above mentioned differances between the USMC and US Army.
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Posted: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 03:58 AM UTC

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This tank is in fact, a USMC M1A1, not a US Army tank.
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Posted: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 07:10 PM UTC
Hello Guys,

Sorry for the delay to answer.

First off all, thanks a lt for all of you to send me or post here these great pictures.

They are amazing!

In fact, I´m lookig for pics to get the markings of the tanks, and not exactly the differences between them. But these pics will help me a lot!

Thanks again!

Bye,

Marcelo
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Posted: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 08:21 PM UTC
For markings of USMC plow tanks, check the Echelon USMC OIF decal sheets. They are in the review section here at Armorama. They show markings for a few plow tanks on each sheet.
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Posted: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 08:36 PM UTC
Thanks Gino!

I already did this. I´d like to see real USMC Abes and it´s markings.

But thanks!

Marcelo
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