Ethelian Middleton takes a close look at the new Centurion from AFV Club. Thanks Eth!
AFV Club Centurion Mk 5/2-6 105mm gun NATO
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AFV Club Centurion Mk 5/2-6 105mmTeacher
England - North West, United Kingdom
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Posted: Monday, January 08, 2007 - 02:50 AM UTC
Posted: Monday, January 08, 2007 - 06:08 AM UTC
Very informative review Eth. Looks like AFV have aded some subtle improvements to the Aussie Centurion. I was waiting for this one, as it means that I don't have to bash the Aussie kit into an Brit version for someone who will want one. He has a 1:1 scale Mk 5, and wants me to add a model to go with the M110 and Land Rover I did for him.
Cheers
Henk
Cheers
Henk
LeoCmdr
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Posted: Monday, January 08, 2007 - 06:37 AM UTC
Good to see that markings are included for Danish and Dutch Centurions but I think that the Dutch Centurions had a different style of headlight and I don't see any mention of it in the review. I take it that they are not included?
I am also curious as to why AFV Club didn't market this kit as a Mk. 5/2, Mk. 6, Mk.6/1, Mk.6/2 and Mk.11 as they included all the parts required for all these versions,(IR searchlight, glacis plate armour, .50 Cal ranging gun mantlet, and turret basket), from the Mk.5/1 kit. They even included the 100 gallon fuel tank to make the long range versions.
Subtle changes to the instructions could have shown modellers how to build the different variants.
Well, then there is likely a Mk.11 version right around the corner.
Good review, thanks for doing it.
I am also curious as to why AFV Club didn't market this kit as a Mk. 5/2, Mk. 6, Mk.6/1, Mk.6/2 and Mk.11 as they included all the parts required for all these versions,(IR searchlight, glacis plate armour, .50 Cal ranging gun mantlet, and turret basket), from the Mk.5/1 kit. They even included the 100 gallon fuel tank to make the long range versions.
Subtle changes to the instructions could have shown modellers how to build the different variants.
Well, then there is likely a Mk.11 version right around the corner.
Good review, thanks for doing it.
AVRE165
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Posted: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 - 01:33 AM UTC
Hi
for those who do not know i have been involved with the afv centurion for some time.
there are at least 3 more versions to come, and some hobby fan stuff as well.
any body want any information or pictures then email me
i am glad every one likes the kit.
thanks
Ossie Orsbourn
for those who do not know i have been involved with the afv centurion for some time.
there are at least 3 more versions to come, and some hobby fan stuff as well.
any body want any information or pictures then email me
i am glad every one likes the kit.
thanks
Ossie Orsbourn
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Panzerkommandant
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Posted: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 - 01:52 AM UTC
Hi gentlemen,
was the Centurion the first british tank with the superb 105 mm L7 gun?
Thanks,Nils
was the Centurion the first british tank with the superb 105 mm L7 gun?
Thanks,Nils
rfeehan
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Posted: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 - 02:18 AM UTC
yes according to my references the L7 gun was fitted into the Centurion as a replacement for the 20pdr in 1959. The old 20pdr wouldn't penetrate the armor on the new generation of Russian tanks at time.
I can not find any mention they installed it on another production tank earlier (the British MBT then was the Centurion until the Chieftan replaced it).
I can not find any mention they installed it on another production tank earlier (the British MBT then was the Centurion until the Chieftan replaced it).
AVRE165
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Posted: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 - 03:12 AM UTC
yes the centurion was the first
but they were allready there with the design when they started to use the type B barrel, all they had to do was make metric and bang you got the 105mm
funny enough they do fit the same breach as far as i am aware.
thanks
ossie
but they were allready there with the design when they started to use the type B barrel, all they had to do was make metric and bang you got the 105mm
funny enough they do fit the same breach as far as i am aware.
thanks
ossie
seb43
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Posted: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 - 04:26 AM UTC
Dear All
May be a stupid question but If i would like to built an Israeli Centurion for the Lebanon war circa 1982 this kit will be ok ???
I dont have my Israeli armor books with I am still on vacation that why it is a stupdi question
Any way thanks in advance
Seb
May be a stupid question but If i would like to built an Israeli Centurion for the Lebanon war circa 1982 this kit will be ok ???
I dont have my Israeli armor books with I am still on vacation that why it is a stupdi question
Any way thanks in advance
Seb
AVRE165
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Posted: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 - 05:23 PM UTC
hi all
all i am going to say JUST WAIT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OK !!!!!!!
all i am going to say JUST WAIT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OK !!!!!!!
Posted: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 - 10:03 PM UTC
Hi Sebastian if you can't wait until afv club release thier Israeli cent check Azimut productions they're doing a conversion for the afv club kit & also look at their best value kit .cheers Pat
seb43
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Posted: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 - 12:39 AM UTC
Sure i can wait
and i will wait this year i will wait for a lot of stuff to be released so
thanks for the info
and i will wait this year i will wait for a lot of stuff to be released so
thanks for the info
NebLWeffah
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Posted: Saturday, March 31, 2007 - 10:45 AM UTC
I've almost finished converting the AFV Club Aussie Mk 5 into a Canadian Mk 11LR. I might have made my life easier and waited for this kit. Oh well....
Bob
Bob