![](../../modules/SquawkBox/images/smilies/huh.gif)
Hosted by Darren Baker
Finding Modern trailers?
![](../../../photos.kitmaker.net/data/19815/thumbs/m117asvrc2.jpg)
seuss95b
![Visit this Community](../../images/flags/us.gif)
Joined: October 30, 2006
KitMaker: 173 posts
Armorama: 118 posts
![Corporal](../../modules/SquawkBox/images/levels/2_4.gif)
Posted: Monday, January 08, 2007 - 03:36 PM UTC
I am looking for a place/site to find a good modern trailer ( M104 or M1102) For Humvees and similar vehicles. Can anyone point me in the right direction.
![](../../modules/SquawkBox/images/smilies/huh.gif)
![](../../../photos.kitmaker.net/data/19815/thumbs/SCTPI003S1.jpg)
Frenchy
![Visit this Community](../../images/flags/fr.gif)
Joined: December 02, 2002
KitMaker: 12,719 posts
Armorama: 12,507 posts
![General of the Army](../../modules/SquawkBox/images/levels/rank.generalarmy.gif)
Posted: Monday, January 08, 2007 - 04:13 PM UTC
ADV/Azimut has released a resin M104 trailer kit (item AZI35066).
![](https://images.google.fr/images?q=tbn:Sr5hI54GkNQmTM:http://vietnamresearch.com/modelsvn/az35066.JPG)
Azimut webstore
IIRC, another M104 has (had ?) been released by WSW/Terres Modele, or maybe KaroAs...
HTH
Frenchy
Azimut webstore
IIRC, another M104 has (had ?) been released by WSW/Terres Modele, or maybe KaroAs...
![](../../modules/SquawkBox/images/smilies/ohwell.gif)
HTH
Frenchy
![](../../../photos.kitmaker.net/data/12349/thumbs/me_with_glasses.jpg)
matt
![Staff Member](../../images/staffer.gif)
![Visit this Community](../../images/flags/us.gif)
Joined: February 28, 2002
KitMaker: 5,957 posts
Armorama: 2,956 posts
![General of the Army](../../modules/SquawkBox/images/levels/rank.generalarmy.gif)
Posted: Monday, January 08, 2007 - 04:53 PM UTC
It's not a bad little Kit. I have one in the stash.....
The HMMWV has it's own trailer as of now (actually 3 of them)
http://www.wenzlau.com/trailers_ltth.htm
http://www.wenzlau.com/trailers_ltthc.htm
http://www.wenzlau.com/trailers_lttf.htm
The HMMWV has it's own trailer as of now (actually 3 of them)
http://www.wenzlau.com/trailers_ltth.htm
http://www.wenzlau.com/trailers_ltthc.htm
http://www.wenzlau.com/trailers_lttf.htm
![](../../../photos.kitmaker.net/data/19815/thumbs/m117asvrc2.jpg)
seuss95b
![Visit this Community](../../images/flags/us.gif)
Joined: October 30, 2006
KitMaker: 173 posts
Armorama: 118 posts
![Corporal](../../modules/SquawkBox/images/levels/2_4.gif)
Posted: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 - 11:54 AM UTC
Thanks guys, great info!!!!! I sent out for one tonight so thanks again
![](../../../photos.kitmaker.net/data/19815/thumbs/20416406984991858e1f94c.jpg)
troubble27
![Visit this Community](../../images/flags/us.gif)
Joined: October 10, 2003
KitMaker: 783 posts
Armorama: 637 posts
![Master Sergeant](../../modules/SquawkBox/images/levels/7_8.gif)
Posted: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 - 02:50 AM UTC
I have a question on the Azimut M104 trailer if anyone knows the answer.. I am building a small diorama of Paul R Smith (MOH recipient) and the M113 he used to defeat some 50-100 iraqi's in the opening days of OIF. I had noticed from my referance pictures that the M113's from the engineer division of the 3rd ID pulled covered trailers behind them. This "appears" to be the correct trailer, but does anyone know for sure? Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Gary
Gary
![](../../modules/SquawkBox/images/smilies/hello.gif)
![](../../../photos.kitmaker.net/data/19815/thumbs/SCTPI003S1.jpg)
Frenchy
![Visit this Community](../../images/flags/fr.gif)
Joined: December 02, 2002
KitMaker: 12,719 posts
Armorama: 12,507 posts
![General of the Army](../../modules/SquawkBox/images/levels/rank.generalarmy.gif)
Posted: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 - 03:14 AM UTC
AFAIK the trailers that are used by engineer units and usually towed by M113s are M105A2 1.5-ton trailers. The M104 is a 1.25-ton trailer. But apart from this, the 2 trailers look the same. The main visible difference I can see is the different landing gear. In fact I've planned to buy a M104 and turn it into a M105 but I still need more data (including M104 specs) to complete the pics I have already gathered....
While looking for info about these trailers I've came across this tread on Steelsoldiers website :
M104 vs M105
So such project looks at least possible...
Frenchy
While looking for info about these trailers I've came across this tread on Steelsoldiers website :
M104 vs M105
So such project looks at least possible...
Frenchy
![](../../../photos.kitmaker.net/data/19815/thumbs/SCTPI003S1.jpg)
Frenchy
![Visit this Community](../../images/flags/fr.gif)
Joined: December 02, 2002
KitMaker: 12,719 posts
Armorama: 12,507 posts
![General of the Army](../../modules/SquawkBox/images/levels/rank.generalarmy.gif)
Posted: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 - 06:52 PM UTC
![](../../../photos.kitmaker.net/data/19815/thumbs/1000w_q951.jpg)
HeavyArty
![Contributor's Award - This member has contributed content to Armorama in the past year.](../../images/contributor.gif)
![Visit this Community](../../images/flags/us.gif)
Joined: May 16, 2002
KitMaker: 17,694 posts
Armorama: 13,742 posts
![General of the Army](../../modules/SquawkBox/images/levels/rank.generalarmy.gif)
Posted: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 - 07:07 PM UTC
The M105 trailer also has larger wheels/tires. It uses the same wheels/tires as on teh front of an M35A2 Duece-and-a-Half. The M104 trailer uses either 3/4 ton Dodge type wheels/tires or HMMWV wheels/tires.
The M104 trailer is also available from Italeri (reboxed by Bilek) in a kit along with a water trailer. I have converted one of the Italeri trailers to an M105 and it turned out pretty good.
The M104 trailer is also available from Italeri (reboxed by Bilek) in a kit along with a water trailer. I have converted one of the Italeri trailers to an M105 and it turned out pretty good.
![](../../../photos.kitmaker.net/data/19815/thumbs/SCTPI003S1.jpg)
Frenchy
![Visit this Community](../../images/flags/fr.gif)
Joined: December 02, 2002
KitMaker: 12,719 posts
Armorama: 12,507 posts
![General of the Army](../../modules/SquawkBox/images/levels/rank.generalarmy.gif)
Posted: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 - 07:26 PM UTC
Quoted Text
The M104 trailer is also available from Italeri (reboxed by Bilek) in a kit along with a water trailer. I have converted one of the Italeri trailers to an M105 and it turned out pretty good.
I've got this kit too, but IIRC it is labelled as "M101 trailer" (=0.75-ton trailer) so I thought it was inadequate for a M105 project because I supposed the M105 cargo bed was larger....
Frenchy
![](../../images/avatar/413.jpg)
cahilj
![Visit this Community](../../images/flags/us.gif)
Joined: November 30, 2006
KitMaker: 68 posts
Armorama: 63 posts
![Private E-2](../../modules/SquawkBox/images/levels/2_2.gif)
Posted: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 - 08:11 PM UTC
The only thing you'll see behind a HUMVEE is the M101 or M1101/M1102. The M104/105 is too large to be towed behind the truck. Around the motorpool, maybe, but not on the road.
![](../../../photos.kitmaker.net/data/12349/thumbs/me_with_glasses.jpg)
matt
![Staff Member](../../images/staffer.gif)
![Visit this Community](../../images/flags/us.gif)
Joined: February 28, 2002
KitMaker: 5,957 posts
Armorama: 2,956 posts
![General of the Army](../../modules/SquawkBox/images/levels/rank.generalarmy.gif)
Posted: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 - 09:09 PM UTC
I think that's the reason behingd the Development of the "new" trailers for the HMMWV
![](../../../photos.kitmaker.net/data/19815/thumbs/20416406984991858e1f94c.jpg)
troubble27
![Visit this Community](../../images/flags/us.gif)
Joined: October 10, 2003
KitMaker: 783 posts
Armorama: 637 posts
![Master Sergeant](../../modules/SquawkBox/images/levels/7_8.gif)
Posted: Thursday, January 11, 2007 - 12:35 AM UTC
Thanks for the info guys. I checked out the links and pictures you provided and also did some more research and from what I can tell, there are differances between the 104 and 105, but they are not very visible. Mostly in the front landing wheel, and vehicle connections. From what I can see in pictures, you could pretty easily turn a 104 into a 105.
![](../../modules/SquawkBox/images/smilies/hello.gif)
![]() |