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Message to Mr Eduard (or other PE suppliers)
seb43
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Posted: Saturday, January 20, 2007 - 09:56 PM UTC
Mr Eduard
I have been looking for ratchet tie downs like this one



and unfortunalty i didnot find anythink.

It will be great if you can produce this kind of tie down.
The buckle will be really usefull for modern modeler and you will have plenty of customers.
I hope you can read my message
Thanks in advance
Seb
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Posted: Saturday, January 20, 2007 - 11:58 PM UTC
Hi Sebastien

I hope you'll be listened to...In fact 4 rachets are included in Eduard's PE set for Trumpeter's Challenger II kit (#35565), but the price would may be a bit high for only 4 parts in case you don't have any Chally kit laying around



Frenchy
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Posted: Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 02:49 AM UTC
Thanks Frenchy

Now I check also the Leclerc set #35844 and there is even more Rachet strap with different sizes.


So Mr Eduard, the mask exist just put them on one set please

Seb
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Posted: Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 03:00 AM UTC
Sebastien,

Whilst somebody from Eduard might pay Armorama a visit and have the inclination to search through all of the posts, one of the ways is for you to make a suggestion to them. You could email them if there is a link on their website or write them a letter. Then you can try and make the case that you feel with the great many modern vehicles that are on the market and in particular with those of OIF being festooned with external stowage, that this is something that they may care to look at as it may sell well.

John
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Posted: Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 09:59 AM UTC
Wow...that Chally 2 set looks really really good. I just built one and now I wish I had that set. I'm sure I can put one on my Chally 1 by Tamiya or a similar set for the kit.
Frenchy
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Posted: Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 01:03 PM UTC

Quoted Text

Now I check also the Leclerc set #35844 and there is even more Rachet strap with different sizes.



Thanks for the tip Seb ! I've just checked the instruction sheet and the set includes 13 ratchets (9 small and 4 large )...Now that gives me some food for thought

Frenchy
seb43
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Posted: Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 03:35 PM UTC
Dear All
If you are like me interested for a ratchet tie down set from Eduard, help me by sending a mail to Eduard and ask them to release one.

The mask exist see ref #35844 so no need to do exstensive R&D process.

If they receive more than one email, maybe they will considere to produce one.
Eduard's email: Libor Havranek at e-mail: [email protected]

Thanks for helping the community
Seb

@Frenchy, de rien
matt
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Posted: Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 05:26 PM UTC
I did... along with a few more Suggestions as well.
seb43
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Posted: Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 08:11 PM UTC
Matt
thanks for your help
seb
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Posted: Monday, January 22, 2007 - 04:42 AM UTC
I did my part and sent them an e-mail, too! Now let's cross our fingers and hope for the best!

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Posted: Monday, January 22, 2007 - 12:08 PM UTC
Dear Sirs,
I have to warn you, that planning multimail suggestions strategies means, that we are at war!
But now seriously. About those ratchets,this additude won't help you .)

But I forwarded your emails to our PE development department. I'll be answering you this question here, to ease things, so much more users can read our reply.
I'll be replying soon.
For Eduard,
Libor Havranek
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seb43
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Posted: Monday, January 22, 2007 - 03:08 PM UTC
Dear Libor

Thanks for your mail and understanding, We are trying here to do direct B2C and it is only a suggestion to you.

We are normal customer that seek for new products and We are using this forum to easily expressed our needs. I think as a company you need to follow the trends and the customers request.

I hope you will following us on this particular demand.

Thanks again for your reply and we are waiting to hear from you soon.

Seb
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Posted: Thursday, January 25, 2007 - 02:13 PM UTC

Quoted Text


Dear Sirs,
I have to warn you, that planning multimail suggestions strategies means, that we are at war!




LMAO
seby_cz
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Posted: Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 05:45 PM UTC
Dear guys,
I know it's quite late to reply, since I promised I'll ask ASAP. I've asked before, but with answer I got, I was frightened to come here.

You see it is really hard, for us producers to satisfy everyone's needs. Situation goes like this. Strong competion, limited finances, need to advance. With these factors, we cannot produce just something, and hope, someone will buy it and use it for specific model.
We would need to study models, on which you'd like to use those ratchets and then produce them. But for specific model, from specific company and in specific scale.
Since there are many objects of interest in this hobby, it is impossible to cover needs of all customers.
Maybe in the future the market will change and AFV modellers will get a better chance, but for now..
That's what I was told..
I would really like to help you with this issue, but since the ratchet tie downs on our sets are really included on quite big photo-etch, in number of just four, I think this won't be the right solution for you..
seb43
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Posted: Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 07:16 PM UTC
Dear Libor

Well I am aware of all the parameters when you are running a company.
If I started this message to you, it was for obvious reasons :

1- You are one of the big player for PE business.
2- You are already producing ratchet tie downs in your modern sets meaning the mask
already exist so the R&D step doesn't need to be done (Money can be easily saved).
They can be found in kit #35565, and kit #35844
3- You are already producing such type of tie down set.

So i think you didn't addressed these points. If you don't want to produce them, at least to put the 14 different ratchets from kit 35844, in a separate kit, it is your call. We don't need the complete tie down this can be done by the modelers with lead foil, we need only the handle, it is not to hard ???

For Modern modelers, it is a sad news maybe other PE manufacturers will read this message and produce them. Well Dreaming is not prohibited :-) :-) :-)

Thanks anyway for your answer.
Seb
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Posted: Friday, March 16, 2007 - 07:13 PM UTC
Libor,

I understand the reasoning behind your company's decision, even if I am a bit sad about it.

If it helps keep the idea alive however, here is how I would pitch it to any company that makes photoetch parts:

Idea: Universal modern armor accessory set

Scale: 1/35--the broadest segment of the armor market

Specific model targeted: None! This new set would be a universal accessory set--similar to Tamiya's (or Hobby Fan's) modern accessory sets. This ensures much broader market appeal for the product, since it is not tied to the popularity of a specific model.

What to include: Use existing designs to minimize R&D costs. For Eduard, that would mean using portions of sets 35565 and 35844 for the ratchets. The set could also include the ratchet straps, CIP panels, and other generic modern armor accessories (padlocks, ammo belts, shell casings, weapon slings). All of these items have already been developed and can be re-purposed for use in this set.

Hope this helps!
seb43
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Posted: Saturday, March 17, 2007 - 01:23 AM UTC
Lucas
Thanks for your help,
I really appreciate, the rest of the modern modelers also

Cheers

Seb
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