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Help recon WWII Russian AFVs
scoccia
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Milano, Italy
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Posted: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 - 10:00 PM UTC
Can anybody please help identifying these vehicles? The pictures were shot in Russia during 1941-42 by a Major Sergeant of Savoia Cavalleria (3°) to russian equipment.







If you want to keep these images and use them for your own reference you're welcome, but please do not re-distribute them without previous agreement with me at the following e-mail address:

[email protected]

Thanks everybody for the help
BroAbrams
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Posted: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 - 10:15 PM UTC
Well the first two are easy, they are T-34's
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Posted: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 - 10:31 PM UTC
Any idea about the version?
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Posted: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 - 10:33 PM UTC
The first 2 are T34s, the light tank looks like a T36, then comes a BA20 armored car (I'm not sure about tha one).
Sorry, but I know nothing about the artillery tractor.

Thanks for the good pics !
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Posted: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 - 03:07 AM UTC
The first T-34 looks like the 1940 model as it has the one large turret hatch,as for the second can't tell since it is upside down in water,the small tank does look like a T-36
amphibious tank as mentioned already and am also not sure of the type of artillery tractor in the last page.
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Posted: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 - 08:12 AM UTC
the first T34 is a model built before 1943 : you can see that from the large turret hatch. That feature was changed with the 43 model.
But I can't be more precise between 40 and 42.
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Posted: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 - 11:34 AM UTC
The first photo is definately a T-34/76 model 1942. You can tell this because it has the large turret hatch and the gun isn't the L-11 which was the gun on the 1940 and 1941 models.

The second photo is definately a T-34/76 but becuase the turret is submerged I can't tell you with any certainty what model. I would be willing to bet though that it is a 1942 due to the steel wheels which didn't show up until late 1942.

The third photo is a T-37A amphibious tank (there is no such thing as a T-36).

The fourth photo is either a BA-20 or BA=20M. I can't tell for sure which one because the only differnce between those two vehicles was the turret which is missing from the vehicle in the photo.

The fifth photo is an STZ (2 maybe?) artillery tractor. I'm not certain though because I don't know much about Soviet artillery tractors.

HTH
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Posted: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 - 12:19 PM UTC
Thank you again for your precius help. The pics have been published on my site at the address http://www.cavalleriaitaliana.it
The links are in home page and you can easily reach them from the home page without getting mad learning Italian. Also credits to all of you have been given under the published pictures. Just let me know if sombody doesn't want to appear and i will remove your name immediately.
Once more, thanks very much everybody
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