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Armor/AFV: Allied - WWII
Armor and ground forces of the Allied forces during World War II.
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Posted: Saturday, January 27, 2007 - 09:10 PM UTC
I'm aware that there is no paint colour that directly reproduces the green used on British vehicles in WWII. Tamiya list their dark Green on their instructions, but i was wondering of anyone has a simple mix for something closer to the original. I'm not bothered about anything that exactly matches contemporary paint chips, but something a little closer than Dark Green. Would Vallejo's Bronze Green do? I'm really looking for an acrylic, not enamel, mix.

Thanks for your advice chaps!


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Posted: Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 12:59 AM UTC
British green at the end of WW II was SCC15 Olive Drab. When fresh is was almost exactly like US OD which can be found as Tamiya OD XF-62. The British version was a shade greener than the US version and apparently faded greener as well (US OD apparently faded a bit greyer). For my models I use Tamiya OD and add a few dashes of medium green. For a heavily faded model I would add yellow to lighten and a bit more medium or light green to green it up a bit more.

It should still look like OD, though, and not like a medium or dark green. Just a hint more green than the plain XF-62 paint.

I hope that helps.

Paul
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Posted: Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 01:12 AM UTC
I remember reading that Tamiya XF-62 Dark Green does resemble postwar British Deep Bronze Green. True?
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Posted: Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 09:00 AM UTC
The MAFVA website has mixes for SCC15 British Olive Drab. Bronze Green is a very different color.
http://www.mafva.org.uk/Resources.asp
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Posted: Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 03:18 PM UTC
Thanks guys - that's very helpful.

Tom - Vallejo's bronze green is similar to the Tamiya Dark Green, but a little paler.


Sean
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Posted: Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 08:42 PM UTC
Another useful mix for the "british OD" (as I like to call it) - SCC15 is as follows (all Tamiya):

XF-52 : 8
XF-26 : 8
XF-1 : 1
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Posted: Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 08:50 PM UTC

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Tom - Vallejo's bronze green is similar to the Tamiya Dark Green, but a little paler.


Sean



I'm using it for a Korean War British Churchill Crocodile tank. Presumably I can get by with the Tamiya color for this.
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Posted: Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 09:14 PM UTC

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Tom - Vallejo's bronze green is similar to the Tamiya Dark Green, but a little paler.


Sean



I'm using it for a Korean War British Churchill Crocodile tank. Presumably I can get by with the Tamiya color for this.



Once everything is dusty and weathered, I'm sure you will.


Sean
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Posted: Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 09:17 PM UTC
Hi,

Try this (if I've managed the link)

https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/80834&page=1

hth

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Posted: Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 09:51 PM UTC

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Hi,

Try this (if I've managed the link)

https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/80834&page=1

hth

Craig



Huh, I couldn't find that old thread for the life of me.

Unfortunately, Humbol or Vallejo paints are unavailable in my locale (Chicagoland area), so I have to use Tamiya, Testors, Model Master, Polly S, or Floquil.
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Posted: Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 10:00 PM UTC
Tom,

I book marked it
go to the last post there is a link to WEM, they do a middle bronze green and a dark bronze green and ship to the colonies

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Posted: Monday, January 29, 2007 - 11:30 AM UTC

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they do a middle bronze green and a dark bronze green and ship to the colonies


The question is, of course, does he want a middle or dark bronze green or OD?

Doh! We never asked!

Sean, what vehicle are you building and in what period of WW II? If it's a Sherman (not Firefly) then it would be in American OD and not a British colour at all. If it's something from the '42 to early '44 period it would be SCC2 Service Colour (aka "fresh dogsh*t brown"). Items in service after about April 1944 would be SCC15 OD. If it is early war armour, like a Matilda I or the like, then its probably in G3 and G4 greens.

Paul
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Posted: Monday, January 29, 2007 - 03:43 PM UTC
Hi Paul,

Really I'm looking for colours for post D-Day vehicles in NW Europe. I also have a n Austin ambulance I'm working on, which could be from any period of the war: what rough colour guide would be appropriate for a vehicle working for the pre-Dunkirk BEF?


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Posted: Monday, January 29, 2007 - 05:05 PM UTC
Check the Resources page on MAFVA, or get hold of Mike Starmer's books, you won't be disappointed

Starmer's Guides

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Posted: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 06:56 AM UTC
Yes, the MAFVA resources pages are where I got a lot of my info on patterns and colours. They are divided up by time period so you can find out just what you want to know. One problem is that the mixes are for Humbrol enamels, which I don't use and are harder to get here in Toronto.

Paul
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Posted: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 10:39 AM UTC

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Tom,

I book marked it
go to the last post there is a link to WEM, they do a middle bronze green and a dark bronze green and ship to the colonies

Craig



Actually, I went to Great Models Webstore at the top of this webpage, and lo and behold they sell that very paint. I liked dealing with that store in the past so that will be my source. Thanks!
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Posted: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 05:29 PM UTC
Tom,
I've just used the WEM dark Bronze Green on the turret bins of an Aussie Cent and it's left god awful brush marks, so I've repainted them with Humbrol 177 they look right and I suppose when it's been filtered, washed and covered with pigments it won't really make that much difference.

I will be posting pics when it's done you you can see for yourself (s)

Cheers

Craig
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Posted: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 08:56 PM UTC
Can't that paint be used with an airbrush?
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Posted: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 09:01 PM UTC
Hi,

I think so, it is very thin, I don't use an airbrush so I don't know.

Cheers

craig
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