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Claymore Mines
Wolfe
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Posted: Saturday, January 27, 2007 - 11:28 PM UTC
I was thinking of a dio that included several claymores that had already been detonated, but have found nothing to show what the mine would look like after the detonation. Is there anything left? Is it just the "legs"? Is the det cord attached to anything??

Thanks in Advance
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Posted: Saturday, January 27, 2007 - 11:57 PM UTC
Mind you I have never seen one set off in real life, but I believe just the front face blows out. The side that say's "front towards enemy" blows outward. leaving most of the mine intact.
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Posted: Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 12:17 AM UTC
It's part shotgun blast, part hand grenade. There isn't much left to the mine after detonation. There is a rearward danger zone when using the Claymore.
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Posted: Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 12:18 AM UTC
Well, let's see....you have C4 PE inside a plastic case, with 700 ball bearings on one side.....I think it's safe to say there wouldn't be much left. How would you get C4 to only blow in one direction, after all? Besides that, soldiers in Vietnam would often tie them with their backs to trees to clear landing zones quickly, and the backblast would knock down the trees. Plus, you were supposed to set them out fairly far from any defensive position, again due to the backblast....I think around 50 ft (or was it 50 yds?). So, I think it's safe to say that there should be nothing left of the mine. To show where it went off, perhaps a small burnt spot on the ground, and cleared vegetation in front of it in a 60 degree arc.

HTH.
Rob
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Posted: Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 12:59 AM UTC
Because of the shape, most of the blast is directed in a forward arc. There's nothing left of the mine. However, when they're employed, the electrical wire is tied off to a stake to prevent it from pulling the mine over if the wire is disturbed. The stake and wire remain and the stake usually doesn't go but a few feet. The ground will not even scorch where the mine was.
The backblast WILL NOT knock down trees.
Civilians and military alike use the timber cutting formula (P=.004D^2) You would have to adjust P from TNT's value to that of C4, and then properly secure the charge around the tree.
Even then a one pound kicker charge is required near the top of the tree to insure it falls in the right direction.
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Posted: Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 01:34 AM UTC

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Is there anything left? Is it just the "legs"? Is the det cord attached to anything?


If I recall correctly, there is nothing left. The cord, which is twin core electrical cable red-brown in colour, would end between 2 and 5 mtrs short of point of detonation. Apart from that there is nothing left, only bare earth.

This diagram of the danger zone may be of some help.

Source: M18 Claymore

cheers
David
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Posted: Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 03:36 AM UTC
A 1/35 Claymore would be tiny anyway... A detonated one would be..

Just a blast mark on the ground really.
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Posted: Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 04:11 AM UTC
The ones i detonated during my combat engineer courses didnt leave any trace of the original mine once we went back to the blast site. As many have already mentioned, it doesnt burn objects in its blast direction, it releases hundreds of metal hexagonal shaped ball bearings so the end result looks similar to a shotgun damage just a little bigger.

If you want to make it interesting, there are always the ADM mines which we nicknamed "Papa Claymore" (think claymore mine on steroids) . It would shred tree trunks and severely weaken concrete structures.

For our claymore mines, we dont use a det cord but rather a detonator (loaded in the claymore) connected to a primer through an electric wire. The wire would be all thats left after detonation. The primer is to be kept for future use so those wouldnt be lying around.

Hope that helps.
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Posted: Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 05:06 AM UTC
Maybe you can bend trees and plants away from the blast area in an arc to show the direction of the explosion.
Murdo
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Posted: Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 05:22 AM UTC

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Maybe you can bend trees and plants away from the blast area in an arc to show the direction of the explosion.



Please remember that shrapnel is the killer, not explosives and blast.

Plants that were still in one piece (i.e. stem not ripped apart) would come back to whatever position they were in previously (except at exact moment of detonation... i.e. within time and distance blast radius).

Trees and bushes would not bow away from the force. They would really only "shiver" instantly (if even that) as the shrapnel passed through.

Artistic licence might be a great help here though as you are trying to IMPLY that "something IS happening" as opposed to "something HAS happened"!

Good luck mate!
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Posted: Friday, July 11, 2008 - 01:06 AM UTC
Its Been almost 40 years,but if i remember right, the only thing left was a hole.I saw one placed too close to a chain link fence,when it blew ,it blew a 6x6 hole in the fence behind it.I never really looked but i dont remember seeing anything left when we replaced them,the next morning.Most of the ones we set up were detonated by small hand held elect detonators ,but we had alot of trip wire on them too,and most of them were detonated by animals,such as mongoose.I was stationed at a bomb dump near Da Nang R.V.N..
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Posted: Friday, July 11, 2008 - 04:08 AM UTC
Couple of the older Dragon Vietnam figure kits came with claymores. Not sure which ones.
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