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Armor and ground forces of the Axis forces during World War II.
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is there a Railcar for Tiger 1 35?
redgonie
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West-Vlaaderen, Belgium
Joined: January 19, 2007
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Posted: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 - 04:05 PM UTC
Hi ,
i m looking for a Railway transport car for a Tiger in 1 35. Dragon has a 'schwerer plattformwagen Ssy 4 axes' but their load was only up to 50 ton, so i need the Ssym 6 axes till 80 ton... cos Tigers weight was about 56 ton.

i saw somewhere a build of a Ssym on a japanese site, couldnt read a word of it. It looked a resin model.

Does anybody know of a manufacturer who has those 6 axed types Ssym
oldbean
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Virginia, United States
Joined: July 05, 2004
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Posted: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 - 04:43 PM UTC
I believe that Tank Work Shop or Tiger Model makes one.
Tankcommander
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Berlin, Germany
Joined: November 22, 2006
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Posted: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 - 04:58 PM UTC
Hi

I know for sure, that the company IRONSIDE manufactured this Tiger railcar. But to be honest, its from very poor quality, not really recommended. I´ve been very lucky as I selled this item on ebay for about 80€. And there was no resin or pe included
I would recommend, if possible to scratch this one, use the Dragon one as a base

regards Nico
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Wales, United Kingdom
Joined: April 09, 2005
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Posted: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 - 05:52 PM UTC
TBH I thought the dragon one ould have been OK as its got the 2 sets of bogies.

But reading this I guess I'm wrong, would be interested to hear where you get one from.
mark197205
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England - East Midlands, United Kingdom
Joined: November 10, 2003
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Posted: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 - 10:42 PM UTC
You can get one from a Japanese manufacturer called "Atelier Infinite" it will be a resin and etched kit, apparently the quality is excellent, but then so is the price too.....
They make a range of rail platform wagons for AFV's and even an armoured loco for a full BP42 Armoured train as well as some bits to update Dragon's Maus and E100 kits by means of replacement turrets and even fully working suspension!
You should be able to find a link to them vis PMMS.
redgonie
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West-Vlaaderen, Belgium
Joined: January 19, 2007
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Posted: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 - 01:14 AM UTC
scratchbuild? it was also much longer that 6 axed one! Not an option as ive never did that before.

Ironside? Will be hard to find.

I ll look for that japanese manufacturer or TWS.

Last option: put on panther or Pz IV. But my idea is tiger with transport tracks and their battle tracks rolled up in front and wheels stacked up. even if you would cheat the 4 axed is too small to put all that on it...

but thanks guys

Ross
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England - South East, United Kingdom
Joined: December 23, 2004
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Posted: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 - 04:07 PM UTC
Tank Workshop make one. It can be got for £40 from Lou Stener in UK, he normally ships for free in UK but not sure about to Belgium, I can recommend him very highly for service.

And you definately need the 3 axle bogies.

http://www.armour-models.co.uk/model_kit_tws.html
MrMox
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Aarhus, Denmark
Joined: July 18, 2003
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Posted: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 - 05:38 PM UTC
why make it complicated ?

http://www.greatmodels.com/~smartcart/cgi/display.cgi?item_num=IR012

Buy one ...
redgonie
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West-Vlaaderen, Belgium
Joined: January 19, 2007
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Posted: Thursday, February 08, 2007 - 09:25 AM UTC
buy one? i want at least 2!!!! thanks guys! damn now im at 3m for my dio...
Ross
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England - South East, United Kingdom
Joined: December 23, 2004
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Posted: Thursday, February 08, 2007 - 02:13 PM UTC
Before buying, check the quality from someone who's built these. I have heard there can be quality problems with at least one of these kits.
MrMox
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Aarhus, Denmark
Joined: July 18, 2003
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Posted: Thursday, February 08, 2007 - 03:20 PM UTC
I have built the ironside 2 axel flatcar (the one for the pz IV) and besides more cleanup than usual - they do look the part.

The wooden deck was very nicely done, and thats whats most visible on the finished piece.
sante_candia
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Taranto, Italy
Joined: November 07, 2006
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Posted: Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 10:54 PM UTC
Hi there.
I built the 6-axle Ironside kit some years ago, when the railway cars on the market were not so many.
There is no doubt that the quality of the Dragon models is not comparable.
I think that a good solution is a conversion of the Dragon Ssym (4-axle) to the 6-axle version.

Bye, Sante
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