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Winter Camo, how to?
ArmouredSprue
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Posted: Monday, March 03, 2003 - 10:34 AM UTC
Hello folks!
I started to paint a panzer IV (ausf G from Italeri), and IŽll make a very dirt winter scheme, but I got some doubts...
1) Since I applied the base coat (overall German Grey), IŽd like to know if I got to make a drybrush on the german grey and than apply the white color.
2) IŽll try something new this time, IŽll sprayed the base coat using Testor enamel, following IŽll spray Tamiya white color acrilics and than IŽll wipe this off using a brush and some tooth paste (donŽt laugh! I read it somewhere...).
So my big problem is, should I drybrush after the withe or not???????
Thanks for the attention...and cheers
tankshack
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Posted: Monday, March 03, 2003 - 11:01 AM UTC
Paulo,

I have been experimenting with the winter white wash techniques that were describe in the book... Panzer Tactics...
http://www.hometown-hobbies.com/inc/pdetail?v=1&pid=7240

In this book, Chris Mrosko describes how to make a very effective, weathered and dirty winter white wash.

The basic idea is similiar to what you describe however, the main difference is in how the paint is removed.

Basic steps are -

1. Base coat the model using enamels.
2. Spray light coats of white using an acrylic paint such as Tamiya.
3. Brush on some acrylic thinner and then "scrub" the white paint off.
4. Add additional layers of white until desired finish is achieved.
5. Apply any weathering such as washes, mud and dirt.
Here's an example after step 3.


I thought that the results were very convincing and easy to achieve.

I have another model that I did this.. I'll try to post images tonight.

Later,
Tim
ArmouredSprue
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Posted: Monday, March 03, 2003 - 11:08 AM UTC
Hi Tim,
Thanks for replying it.
Well as you said is something like I want to do, and so, I donŽt need to make an early drybrush on it, right? Just to spray the white and move on....
Cheers
tankshack
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Posted: Monday, March 03, 2003 - 11:27 AM UTC
That's right... In the book, Mrosko actually just pulled an old kit off his shelf and showed how you can dress up an old model.

The effect really really takes off with some weathering.
Here's another example with some weathering -



Later,
TIm
leogunner
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Posted: Monday, March 03, 2003 - 12:17 PM UTC
Something else you can try, that I have been xperimenting with, is white craft paint. If you use a small brush aroud the edges, it looks like a field applied white wash, and can be tinted any shade you want. Also, it's very easy to "wear off" in the appropriate places just by rubbing it.
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Posted: Monday, March 03, 2003 - 01:17 PM UTC
Bery Bery Good. Tim!!! I love it. I will be doing some white wash on my pending secret Projeckt, I hope it comes out half as good.
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Posted: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 - 09:51 AM UTC
Hey armoured sprue. here is a tip from a guy in our IPMS chapter. We meet every month and this is a killer model in the flesh. He described how he made the weathering in this months magazine
http://ipmsstockholm.org/magazine/2003/02/stuff_eng_tech_detergent_wash.htm
ArmouredSprue
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Posted: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 - 12:17 PM UTC
Thanks for all replies!
I really like the Alberto Elizondo approach, it seens to be very simple and effective.
IŽll give it a try.
Cheers
ArmouredSprue
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Posted: Saturday, March 08, 2003 - 01:58 AM UTC
Olá pesoal.....Hi folks!
Here is a link for this tread in a brazilian forum...enjoy!
Camuflagem de Inverno
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dioman
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Posted: Saturday, March 08, 2003 - 05:42 AM UTC
I have tried the Tony Greenland approach to painting winter camo and so far I like it the best......he does it backwards....paints the whole model white.....then drybrushes with whatever the base colour was on the vehicle.....I tried it on a green vehicle and it looked great...........I will be doing it on a Churchill Crocodile soon.
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Posted: Saturday, March 08, 2003 - 02:00 PM UTC
I've tried a variation of Greenland's method and was extremely pleased with the final outcome. I painted the base color (dark grey) then misted white. Then drybrushed with oils in grey to wear the white off the edges, rivets etc. Lastly I did some weathering with pastels for streaks/stains. It's a somewhat subtle effect for lightly worn whitewash but could be more dramatic with more streaking and drybrushing. Here's a photo
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