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securing buildings to your diorama base
alphasniper
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Posted: Saturday, March 30, 2002 - 11:37 PM UTC
I was just currious if anyone had a way to secure your plaster buildings to the base, and do you use full roofs for your houses?
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Posted: Sunday, March 31, 2002 - 09:11 AM UTC
Two Part Epoxy is what I use. Hot glue might work, but i stick with Epoxy.
AndersHeintz
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Posted: Sunday, March 31, 2002 - 10:17 AM UTC
Hola Alpha,
I try to pin most of the stuff that goes on the base with a length of brass rod thats inserted in a drilled hole in the vehicles, buildings and figures. The rod is either super glued, or with two part epoxy glued in the hole. Then I'd mark the base, so it lines up with the brass rods on the model and drill the holes, and finally insert the models with the brass rods in the holes on the base, also put glue in the base holes, and there you go!!

You can get the brass rods at your local hobby shop, or you can use paper clips.
I'd also put the building in plaster so that there is no gaps between building and ground work.
Hope this helps
Posted: Monday, April 01, 2002 - 04:30 AM UTC
I tend to paste White glue firstly then once that has sealed i use super-glue For a never move fix!
alphasniper
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Posted: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 - 01:09 AM UTC
My dad said that I should pour the mold inverted and while it's wet put finishing nails in the opened bottom and drill holes in my plywood base( which is the base for my whole project. I still think i need a floor in my buildings but I'm not sure how to make one
I also plan to put men inside one building and wondered how muck roof do i need to put on and out of what material since I'm doing a farm in southern france. thatnks for the help so far but I'm still lost ( a little)
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Posted: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 - 10:14 PM UTC
I use two part epoxy putty, Milliput, Aves Apoxy, etc.. Roll out a "worm" as long as the walls contacting the base and apply it to the bottom of the building. Press the building down onto the base and "squish" the putty out the sides. Then use your favorite tools to sculpt some ground work around it. In my case I use toothpicks and some metal dental tools. Usually hardens in about 2-4 hours. Have yet to have one come off. HTH "Q"

ps, the idea of pinning the walls also is a great suggestion. Used with the putty I mentioned here, doubt you could tear it off if you tried!!
alphasniper
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Posted: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 - 12:06 AM UTC
So do any of you make a seprate base? like you have the walls and then you pour a plaster base for the walls and that together sits on your dio board? a seprate floor for the building a visible change in ground height from entering the building and the ground outside it?
Red4
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Posted: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 - 11:23 AM UTC
Alpha,
I trick I have just started using recently is to use a type of styrofoam for the actual base. Some call it Marine Foam, I know it as "The stuff I can get at Home Depot for 12$ a sheet" (3'x6' at that) I have seen it in both blue and pink colors. It can be cut with a hot wire tool or a plane ol' jig saw. To this I add a nice wooden base with felt on the bottom. I use wood glue to secure it. The foam allows for variation in height, terrain, shape, and most impostant to me, the weight. It is extremely light. I have a Panther parked next to a bombed out building with tons of rubble, and the crew. It is approximately 14"x8" in size yet weighs next to nothing. The foam can be textured with a wood burner, soldering iron, sand paper,....you name it you can probably use it to work on this stuff.
Only thing to remember is when painting to use only water based (acrylic) paints as the solvent based ones will eat the daylights out of it. The best bang for the buck here are the large Apple Barrel brand craft paints you find at those cheesy crafts stores like Hobby Lobby and Michaels, and to some extent Wal-Mart. For sub flooring look in the R/C section of your local hobby shop for all the various wood sizes and pieces. I use these to add interior beams and joisting. You may even find sheets of planking that can be cut and used for floors. There is a lot of stuff out there to use for structures. At times think un-conventionally. I find alot of stuff in the doll house section believe it or not. For ground work ie dirt, pay a visit to your local hardware store and ask to see the different colors of tile grout they have. If you can find one that is a good earth tone you have just scored a tremendous amount "Earth". The ones you want are the "sanded" ones. Basically the ones with sand already mixed in them. Add a generous amount of Elmers white glue and your in business.
For about $5 I grabbed a 7lb box of this stuff and haven't made a dent in it. A little goes a long ways and it dries very quickly. I guess I kinda rambled here, but it seems like you got some questions so I figured I'd send what I know and use. HTH "Q"

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Posted: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 07:09 AM UTC
Whoa did someone open the window shade I'm bilinded by the "en" lightenment I just recived. Thanks Red I think you just cleared my problems right up and what's better I wark at the hardware store in town. so I'll even get a discount
thanks for all the knowledge and keep thinkin it up I'm sure I hit a stump sooner or later prefebaly later
thanks
Corey
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