AFV Painting & Weathering
Answers to questions about the right paint scheme or tips for the right effect.
Answers to questions about the right paint scheme or tips for the right effect.
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Future coat water marks
propboy44256
Ohio, United States
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Posted: Friday, March 07, 2003 - 03:41 AM UTC
My last plane model, I finshed, Future coat (let dry 12 hours), decals, (let dry 24hours) then dull coat. I noticed this time, water marks remained from the decals, and sometimes the future clouded when I used decal set. I never experinced this beforwe. How long should future coat dry?, Maybe I was to hasty?
JPeiper
California, United States
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Posted: Friday, March 07, 2003 - 04:30 AM UTC
I have only recently started to use Future. Because of the risk of acrylic base lifting before I washed, I let my Horch dry ~72 hours before I did anything.
Did you thin the Future with water? I found that non thinned future gave a better overall appearance to my vehicle. Earlier I had noted some water spots, too.
Keith
Did you thin the Future with water? I found that non thinned future gave a better overall appearance to my vehicle. Earlier I had noted some water spots, too.
Keith
propboy44256
Ohio, United States
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Posted: Friday, March 07, 2003 - 06:10 AM UTC
I never thin my future at all, and I tend to really put it on thick, Is this wrong?
JPeiper
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Posted: Friday, March 07, 2003 - 06:45 AM UTC
I think most people put it on stright out of the bottle. So, you got it right. I mentioned the thinning with water because I had thinned Future with water and had water spots on the surface of my model. When I switched to 100% Future, I did not get water spots.
I think "thick" is okay as long as it does not pool or run.
Sorry.. just a thought...
Keith
I think "thick" is okay as long as it does not pool or run.
Sorry.. just a thought...
Keith
Folgore
Canada
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Posted: Friday, March 07, 2003 - 07:00 AM UTC
If you really put it on thick, maybe it needed more time to dry before applying the decals. Others have said you should leave it for two days after spraying. If you want something that dries quicker, try Testors Clear Gloss Lacquer.
Nic
Nic
Desert-Fox
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Posted: Friday, March 07, 2003 - 07:17 AM UTC
You should allow the future to cure for at least 48 hrs. This is a wax polish don't forget!
Future floor polish is sometimes used as a cheat in the forces to "BULL" or Highly gloss parade boots prior to marching on "The Square". Anyone caught using this method would be dealt with severely though.
When water droplets hit the surface of the future, it caused some clouding and is normal with Future. This product must not be thinned at all! Especially with water! Windex or similar if you must...but why would you want too????????
If you want to gloss an aircraft or AFV, I would stick to the normal methods.
I only use future underneath a second coat of paint to "Chip" paint off, as in my article on this site!
I have used future as a gloss varnish prior to decalling but was not entirely enthralled with it, and would prefer to use enamel or acrylic gloss paints. (which gives a hard gloss finish, where Future gives a gloss coat yes, but, it, it certainly not hard!
Future floor polish is sometimes used as a cheat in the forces to "BULL" or Highly gloss parade boots prior to marching on "The Square". Anyone caught using this method would be dealt with severely though.
When water droplets hit the surface of the future, it caused some clouding and is normal with Future. This product must not be thinned at all! Especially with water! Windex or similar if you must...but why would you want too????????
If you want to gloss an aircraft or AFV, I would stick to the normal methods.
I only use future underneath a second coat of paint to "Chip" paint off, as in my article on this site!
I have used future as a gloss varnish prior to decalling but was not entirely enthralled with it, and would prefer to use enamel or acrylic gloss paints. (which gives a hard gloss finish, where Future gives a gloss coat yes, but, it, it certainly not hard!