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Cat Litter & Sand
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Joined: February 13, 2003
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Posted: Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 04:00 PM UTC
Hi, i just recently bought cat litter for my groundwork. When i open the package, the cat litter doesnt look like "rubble" at all. It doesnt look like this Rubble Article; not one bit. Instead, i have this greenish hard small cylinder kind of thing. Did i buy the wrong product ? (i bought the smallest pack, and it was 2kg !!!)

Another thing, do you think i can use real beach sand instead of buying Woodland Scenery's train sand ?

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California, United States
Joined: September 04, 2002
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Posted: Monday, March 10, 2003 - 07:18 AM UTC
What you what to buy is the cheap stuff. The cat litter that has zero fillers, crystals, etc. The cat litter is gray but can be stained with either enamel or acrylic washes. Use it to build the basis for rubble, not the rubble itself. For that I use more detailed "rubble" from Verlinden or others.
Try the cheap stuff, it will work.
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Massachusetts, United States
Joined: June 16, 2002
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Posted: Monday, March 10, 2003 - 09:39 AM UTC
The cheaper the better. Anything more expensive is loaded with all kinds of add-ins to make it clump and smell nicely. You definitely don't want that.
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Milano, Italy
Joined: September 02, 2002
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Posted: Monday, March 10, 2003 - 08:02 PM UTC
I agree whith the other fellas. The cheapest the best! Often on the cat litter they put also pics from which you can see the pattern...
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Noord-Holland, Netherlands
Joined: June 07, 2002
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Posted: Monday, March 10, 2003 - 08:16 PM UTC
I always use catlitter and ordinary sand in dio``s same with small pebbles.

Sand you can find anywhere and I always have different types of sand available at home.
We have two cats so the kitty litter is nt a problem too but always the cheap stuff works the best and looks the finest.
small pebbles.. Sure you can invest too much money for a small bag of pebbles at the minirailroadshop but for the same amount of money you can buy 15 kilo`s of small rocks and pebbles at the aquarium store (that`s enough for the rest of your life)
these are just a couple fo guesses for cheap groundwork stuff that always looks the best

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Alabama, United States
Joined: September 26, 2002
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Posted: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 - 06:08 AM UTC
I use oil dry for sand and other ground work. It really is just kitty litter for your car, but I think the actual grains vary in size more than kitty litter.

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Joined: February 13, 2003
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Posted: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 - 10:13 AM UTC
umm..looks like i bought the wrong cat prduct then. Maybe i can still return it to the pet shop. Thanks !!
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Donegal, Ireland
Joined: May 14, 2002
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Posted: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 - 10:57 AM UTC
When you are at the pet store returning the cat litter, ask if they have any fine sands. Thats where i bought mines. it costs next to nothing. I thnk they use it for hamsters or something. Peebles ......... why pay for them. take a brush outside your house, sweep up and filte out all the small stuff. You should have enough small peebles and dust to make a dio.
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Texas, United States
Joined: September 15, 2002
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Posted: Saturday, March 15, 2003 - 09:21 PM UTC
get some medium sized jars and as you drive around you are bound to find piles of dirt and sand. Get some different colors. Then get a supefine sifter and over a spread out newspaper sift your jar of dirt breaking up some of the pieces. This super fine dirt is your base, you'll fine the larger remains make for great pebbles. I also agree that fish tank rocks are the way to go. I found kitty litter too coarse and large for 35th scale. If you've got a mortar and pedistal set, you can grind the dirt even fines. And best of all, it doesn't cost anything