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Dioramas: Making Bases
Discuss all aspects of making bases.
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Posted: Saturday, April 14, 2007 - 09:59 PM UTC


Hey boys,
My snow is not very good. Its baking soda that I sprinkled. There has got to be a better way to apply it. Any suggestions?

-Ziggy
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Posted: Saturday, April 14, 2007 - 10:02 PM UTC
Have you tried using something like a flour shaker?

Dave
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Posted: Saturday, April 14, 2007 - 10:28 PM UTC
dont have one of those. any other way?
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Posted: Saturday, April 14, 2007 - 11:10 PM UTC
Did you mix it with white glue??

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Posted: Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 12:52 AM UTC
A few sugestions:
1. Use marble dust, not baking soda. It sparkles like snow.
2. If you use a white glue/water mix, add dishsoap to it. It breaks the surface tension.
3. Since your base depicts mostly melted snow, choose a direction for north on your base and have the snow only collecting on the north face of ruts, and at the nortth base of stones, buildings, etc... Everything facing south melts sooner.
Your groundwork looks great, otherwise.
Which part of Texas are you in?
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Posted: Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 02:32 AM UTC
Hi there

Don't worry that it doesn't look quite how you want it just yet, never give up. Try adding another layer onto the second one. Just in patches though, to suggest areas where the snow has melted faster than other areas.

Keep up the good work though as the rest of the groundwork looks Ace.

Stuart

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Posted: Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 03:06 AM UTC
Try a salt or pepper shaker to coat the 'snow'.Also,the plant life looks way to green for there to be snow on the ground but I'm no flora experten by any means .Otherwise,I like the groundwork a lot.
cheers!
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Posted: Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 08:28 AM UTC
I wouldn't be so hard on yourself. Except for the clumps of power, which you can remove, this looks very much like what we normally call a "light dusting." Believe me we've seen a lot of days like this this winter.

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Posted: Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 09:02 AM UTC
I would avoid using anything in a diorama that is chemically unstable, like cleansers or baking soda, as they will react over time with moisture in the air and discolor. I also avoid anything that small critters find digestible, as weevils in a diorama can lead to domestic opposition (that's why white glue and Celluclay is no longer on my list of acceptable ground cover materials). And no cobblestones made from split peas or lentils, either!
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Posted: Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 04:03 PM UTC
No flour shaker? Try sifting the flour through a piece of window screen.
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Posted: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 05:09 PM UTC
an alternative way for snow is flatulence salt. i used it for a diorama 4 years ago, sparkles like fresh snow and doesn't change color. lay a base of water and wood glue en put it on using an old salt dispenser (like you use at diner)

this is a picture of a week or two ago of the dio which i'm referring to:
you can see it's an old piece since the varnish of the character turned yellow. i'm planning on redoing the figurine and use a different type of varnish to make sure it doesn't happen again

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Posted: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 08:28 PM UTC

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flatulence salt

What in the world is this?? I understand Flatulence...farting, but fart salt?.. LOL PLease enlighten me."Q"
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Posted: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 08:32 PM UTC
Matt, I'm glad YOU went there.............
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Posted: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 11:38 PM UTC
does this salt make you....... or prevent you?
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Posted: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 11:40 PM UTC
I think he means something like Andrews Liver salts dont know if you get that in the states,Put a spoonfull in a glass add water it fizzes up and you drink it makes you burp better than coke
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Posted: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 12:17 AM UTC
whatever the product i think the effect is convincing
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Posted: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 12:17 AM UTC
whatever the product i think the effect is convincing
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Posted: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 01:45 AM UTC

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flatulence salt

What in the world is this?? I understand Flatulence...farting, but fart salt?.. LOL PLease enlighten me."Q"



Epsom salts...

Maybe.
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Posted: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 03:24 AM UTC

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Epsom salts...

Maybe.



I think they're two entirely different things. I doubt drinking Epsom (bath) salts would do you much good.. I'm not sure about making you fart.

As for making good snow, I thought Epsom salts were coloured green or something... So you won't be a prat and put it on yer food... Or be so daft as to drink it for example....

Dunno, just a thought...
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Posted: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 06:02 AM UTC

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Epsom salts...

Maybe.



I think they're two entirely different things. I doubt drinking Epsom (bath) salts would do you much good.. I'm not sure about making you fart.

As for making good snow, I thought Epsom salts were coloured green or something... So you won't be a prat and put it on yer food... Or be so daft as to drink it for example....

Dunno, just a thought...



Y'right.

My bad.

Maybe I was thinking of Bicarbonate of Soda....

I believe that used to be taken as a 'cure' for stomach ailments.

acav out
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Posted: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 02:55 PM UTC
sorry if this translation is not correct. i'm not a native speaker and though my knowledge of english is quite good, i had no idea what the english word was for this product so i used the site world.altavista.com for the translation..

the salt i'm referring to is the product you take when you have an upset stumach. in dutch it's called "maagzout", litterally "stumach salt".

when looking for this stuff on wikipedia, i found out that there's no actual name for this product in english, except for the chemical material it represents;Sodium bicarbonate .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_bicarbonate#For_neutralization_of_acids

i hope this clarifies my post
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Posted: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 03:24 PM UTC
AHHHHH Baking Soda
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Posted: Thursday, April 26, 2007 - 12:45 AM UTC
Nothing at all wrong with your English KoOkie.

The post brought some nice humour to an otherwise busy, dreary week.

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Posted: Thursday, April 26, 2007 - 03:19 AM UTC
It's OK KoOKIE, translation humor ranks high on our lists of favorites!
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Posted: Thursday, April 26, 2007 - 06:37 AM UTC
Yes, it brought some much needed humor to my week. BTW, the snow made with the fart salt looks great. "Q"
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