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Dragon 1/72 Sherman
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Posted: Thursday, April 26, 2007 - 10:21 AM UTC
I noticed that the newly-tooled Dragon 1/72 Sherman looks 'off' to me, compared to my Esci's Shermans. The Dragon's Sherman is narrower, and, as a result, it doesn't look right (i.e. too long and skinny). The Esci Shermans looks like the real thing--their shape is captured perfectly.
I will have to use all the new Dragon parts to fix up my Esci's!
While on the subject of Shermans, has anyone else noticed that the 1/35 Italieri M4A1 Cast Hull Sherman is also wrong? The sides of the hull are 'sloped', instead of being perpendicular (90 degrees) to the ground. This is very difficult to fix.
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Posted: Thursday, April 26, 2007 - 11:34 AM UTC
I can't comment on the 1:72 dragon sherman hulls, but the sides of a cast hull sherman are supposed to be sloped. If they had been perpendicular to the ground it would have cause trouble getting the casting out of the mould.
See for yourself: http://www.usarmymodels.com/ARTICLES/Sherman%20Corner/M4A1%20Slope/M4A1hullslope.html
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Posted: Friday, April 27, 2007 - 12:47 AM UTC

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I noticed that the newly-tooled Dragon 1/72 Sherman looks 'off' to me, compared to my Esci's Shermans. The Dragon's Sherman is narrower, and, as a result, it doesn't look right (i.e. too long and skinny). The Esci Shermans looks like the real thing--their shape is captured perfectly.


If you measure it, the M4A1 is close to 1 7/16ths of an inch, doing the math that comes out very close to an actual Sherman's width of 8'7"

John
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Posted: Friday, April 27, 2007 - 08:27 AM UTC

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If you measure it, the M4A1 is close to 1 7/16ths of an inch, doing the math that comes out very close to an actual Sherman's width of 8'7"

John


These measurements are for the Dragon M4A1
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Posted: Friday, April 27, 2007 - 11:12 PM UTC

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I noticed that the newly-tooled Dragon 1/72 Sherman looks 'off' to me, compared to my Esci's Shermans. The Dragon's Sherman is narrower, and, as a result, it doesn't look right (i.e. too long and skinny). The Esci Shermans looks like the real thing--their shape is captured perfectly.


Well, having checked the DML M4s against (modern) accurate 1/72nd scale plans, I'm afraid i'm scratching my head here. So rather than scale them against the (very old) Esci kits, perhaps some accurate plans would have been more reliable?

Nowadays, I really think you'd be hard pushed to find anyone who would question the accuracy of the DML 1/72nd scale Shermans...
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