This is my latest dio.It`s a Dragon 1/35,the only thing is missing are more ammo crates to put in.All your comments are most welcome.thanks in advance for your time.
Pedro
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madspaniard
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Posted: Sunday, May 20, 2007 - 01:15 AM UTC
madspaniard
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Posted: Sunday, May 20, 2007 - 11:18 PM UTC
You didn`t comment,is that a bad sign?,something wrong?
TacFireGuru
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Posted: Sunday, May 20, 2007 - 11:44 PM UTC
Pedro,
How about a pic from above? One that get's the entire dio from above?
I don't know much about the Flak's, though they are indeed wicked beasties!
The pics are kinda blurry, but I like the retaining walls for the emplacement. Can't tell....but I'm assuming they are individual boards?
It seems "proper" that the figures have dirty "whites" on their lower legs (pic 2 looks good (the fig with the binos) with the dirty "backside"). Thinking about it, they wouldn't wear their helmets all the time, so maybe some dirt/mud on top of their helmets?
Agreed...needs ammo crates. Something else to consider may be a little more snow at the edge of the pit where it meets the walls.
All in all, looks sharp to me!
Mike
How about a pic from above? One that get's the entire dio from above?
I don't know much about the Flak's, though they are indeed wicked beasties!
The pics are kinda blurry, but I like the retaining walls for the emplacement. Can't tell....but I'm assuming they are individual boards?
It seems "proper" that the figures have dirty "whites" on their lower legs (pic 2 looks good (the fig with the binos) with the dirty "backside"). Thinking about it, they wouldn't wear their helmets all the time, so maybe some dirt/mud on top of their helmets?
Agreed...needs ammo crates. Something else to consider may be a little more snow at the edge of the pit where it meets the walls.
All in all, looks sharp to me!
Mike
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Posted: Monday, May 21, 2007 - 12:20 AM UTC
Hi Pedro.
I think you did a great job on the dio as a whole. The retaining walls look pretty nice and the whole set up is appropriate. Now, I think the gun itself may need a bit more detail painting as it looks a bit "uniform." Maybe you could do a wash to pick out the details (there are tons of details on these kits) a bit more and put some little scratches here and there. The figures look nice but I just think the mud on the pants are a bit overdone. Subtle wear is key.
Again, overall, a nice representation. Keep up the good work,
Rob
I think you did a great job on the dio as a whole. The retaining walls look pretty nice and the whole set up is appropriate. Now, I think the gun itself may need a bit more detail painting as it looks a bit "uniform." Maybe you could do a wash to pick out the details (there are tons of details on these kits) a bit more and put some little scratches here and there. The figures look nice but I just think the mud on the pants are a bit overdone. Subtle wear is key.
Again, overall, a nice representation. Keep up the good work,
Rob
madspaniard
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Posted: Monday, May 21, 2007 - 12:47 AM UTC
Thanks guys ,I will follow your advices,in the mean time this is another one.This time I change the position of the 2 observers,to behind the gun,and add some unpainted jerrycans.
DUBDUBS
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Posted: Monday, May 21, 2007 - 01:02 AM UTC
It looks alot better with the ammo crates, and better photography. I think maybe a guy jumping into the trench would look cool, but its up to you. great work!
MRMOOSE535
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Posted: Monday, May 21, 2007 - 01:31 AM UTC
There is only one thing wrong with this Diorama, I know becuse I made the same one when I did 1/76 DAK years and years ago. One side of the gun pit needs to be sloped. Reason being how do you get the gun in and the gun dollies out? They are to big to lift over the wall and you can not withdraw the gun if you have to "bug out". We learn by mistakes and this was a lesson I never forgot. But great dio, I love the dirty uniforms
Posted: Monday, May 21, 2007 - 06:09 AM UTC
Pedro,
Mark is right, unless it is a permanent AA emplacement there should be an easy way to remove the gun quickly.
That said, I really like your dio. The trench system is very nice and the snow is well done. I think the winter uniforms need a bit of work however. They were only 'white' for a very short time. They would be more realistic if you painted them a very light gray and drybrushed an off white in places. The mud stains can also be drybrushed starting with a light shade of "mud" and using progressively darker or more "muddy" tones. The final touch would be the "wet" mud on the knees and lower portions of the pant leg.
All in all you've got a nice dio going here, just a little more work on the subtle areas!
Cheers,
Charles
Mark is right, unless it is a permanent AA emplacement there should be an easy way to remove the gun quickly.
That said, I really like your dio. The trench system is very nice and the snow is well done. I think the winter uniforms need a bit of work however. They were only 'white' for a very short time. They would be more realistic if you painted them a very light gray and drybrushed an off white in places. The mud stains can also be drybrushed starting with a light shade of "mud" and using progressively darker or more "muddy" tones. The final touch would be the "wet" mud on the knees and lower portions of the pant leg.
All in all you've got a nice dio going here, just a little more work on the subtle areas!
Cheers,
Charles
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Posted: Monday, May 21, 2007 - 11:41 PM UTC
The dioramas great and all and I admire anyone that attempts to make snow, but I have one question.
How does the piece get in or out of the pit?
How does the piece get in or out of the pit?
madspaniard
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Posted: Thursday, May 24, 2007 - 03:55 AM UTC
Thanks very much for your comments and inputs,they are very important to me.
The way to get out the 88,well,you got me on that one.I really dinīt think about that.
Thanks again guys
Pedro
The way to get out the 88,well,you got me on that one.I really dinīt think about that.
Thanks again guys
Pedro
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Posted: Thursday, May 24, 2007 - 09:54 AM UTC
i like the concept of the dio, the story line behind and everything , however i think you should take out the transportation parts of the gun, and do a bit more detail painting on it. the reason i suggest taking out the transport axles is cause , first off the gun is sunk into the dug out pit, second they take away from the story line. its only a suggestion, i mean when you look at the ref pictures in the books , you'll see most of them remained in the transport mode, and then again those wont sunk into gun pits
but other then that i thinks its good..........cheers good job laddy
but other then that i thinks its good..........cheers good job laddy
madspaniard
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Posted: Friday, May 25, 2007 - 07:54 PM UTC
Thanks Abydos,for your idea,it`s a question to consider,you are perhaps right.Thanks
Pedro
Pedro
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Posted: Saturday, May 26, 2007 - 05:50 AM UTC
This is a nice job Pedro.
My suggestions are in line with the others. I think a wash will really bring out the details. I was always reluctant at the beginning to use washes as the paint jobs on the models I built looked so good (to me) and I didn't want to ruin it. However once I started using washes and saw the results I would not do them any other way.
Try a thinned out dark wash to start and see how you like it. Believe me you will still be able to see your paint job. Your first coat of wash can be very subtle if your are reluctant to use them. Make it almost like tinted water. After it dries and you do like the results you can add another wash. It will get darker in subtle shades.
I would also add another color to the uniform with regards to dirt such as a thin black, almost like a wash on the elbows, knees, seat pants, cuffs. I like how you did the brown muddying but uniforms did get filthy and had a variety of stains.
Great job on the snow and wheel wells. How did you do the wheel wells if I may ask.
My suggestions are in line with the others. I think a wash will really bring out the details. I was always reluctant at the beginning to use washes as the paint jobs on the models I built looked so good (to me) and I didn't want to ruin it. However once I started using washes and saw the results I would not do them any other way.
Try a thinned out dark wash to start and see how you like it. Believe me you will still be able to see your paint job. Your first coat of wash can be very subtle if your are reluctant to use them. Make it almost like tinted water. After it dries and you do like the results you can add another wash. It will get darker in subtle shades.
I would also add another color to the uniform with regards to dirt such as a thin black, almost like a wash on the elbows, knees, seat pants, cuffs. I like how you did the brown muddying but uniforms did get filthy and had a variety of stains.
Great job on the snow and wheel wells. How did you do the wheel wells if I may ask.
madspaniard
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Posted: Saturday, May 26, 2007 - 05:41 PM UTC
Thanks EagleSmack for your comments.I think I will do a wash to the 88,but I was thinking of doing it in a lighter colour,not in a darker one.
The wheel wells were painted with an airbrush,and then I put some earth pigments on it,the tires were painted in the final.
Thanks a lot
Pedro
The wheel wells were painted with an airbrush,and then I put some earth pigments on it,the tires were painted in the final.
Thanks a lot
Pedro