. If you are going to add some to the turret, don't forget to position them so, that the gunners periscope is not blocked.Nice build so far.
Groeten
Henk
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White Washed: Pzkfw IV ausf.H
Henk
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Posted: Friday, November 09, 2007 - 04:52 AM UTC
Nice one with the Russian track links Martin. I believe you should have quite a stash of those by now... . If you are going to add some to the turret, don't forget to position them so, that the gunners periscope is not blocked.
Nice build so far.
Groeten
Henk
. If you are going to add some to the turret, don't forget to position them so, that the gunners periscope is not blocked.Nice build so far.
Groeten
Henk
Martinnnn
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Posted: Friday, November 09, 2007 - 10:25 PM UTC
Thanks for the replies
I cut the schurzen out of thin plastic sheet. I need some thin brass strip now to make the "hooks" on the schurzen so they hang on the frame....so some days of delay before I can get started with painting.
Meanwhile I checked my stash and found these two figure kits:
I started with the Tamiya kit, kinda old-school style but good enough for me. By now I used sand paper to remove the mold seams and I used some putty to fill the large gaps (especialy between the torso and legs putty is required).
By adding 9 infantry figures to the diorama I have in mind, I also think it might be a good idea to add a half track/personel carrier....Maybe a 250 or 251! Enough options with all the new Dragon and AFV kits
Martin
I cut the schurzen out of thin plastic sheet. I need some thin brass strip now to make the "hooks" on the schurzen so they hang on the frame....so some days of delay before I can get started with painting.
Meanwhile I checked my stash and found these two figure kits:
I started with the Tamiya kit, kinda old-school style but good enough for me. By now I used sand paper to remove the mold seams and I used some putty to fill the large gaps (especialy between the torso and legs putty is required).
By adding 9 infantry figures to the diorama I have in mind, I also think it might be a good idea to add a half track/personel carrier....Maybe a 250 or 251! Enough options with all the new Dragon and AFV kits
Martin
Plasticbattle
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Posted: Friday, November 09, 2007 - 11:13 PM UTC
Hi Martin. This is starting to look like a very busy scene .... just the way we like them!! The spare track armor will contrast nicely with the white wash. Looking forward to more!! 
RoelGeutjens
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Posted: Saturday, November 10, 2007 - 01:31 AM UTC
Hey Martinnnn
Great start on that Mk 4. I like the way you covered up the front with spare tracks like on that ref pic! Keep up the good work I wonder how this one will turn out!
grtz Roel
Great start on that Mk 4. I like the way you covered up the front with spare tracks like on that ref pic! Keep up the good work I wonder how this one will turn out!
grtz Roel
Martinnnn
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Posted: Monday, December 17, 2007 - 09:22 AM UTC
Update! Not really a blog so far but I'll try to make more in-progress pics of the painting and weathering and of course the white wash.
First of all, the Pzfkw IV ausf.H so far. I noticed the pin mark on the T-34 track in the front, this one will be covered with snow so it won't be visible anymore once finished. I've got some problems with the schurzen. They wrapped a bit after I sprayed them in primer. Hope I can fix this. Other than that, all goes slow but as planned.
Next the Tamiya figures in progress. Still lot of work to do:
And my Izba (small Russian farm/village house) in progress!
Hope you like it so far
First of all, the Pzfkw IV ausf.H so far. I noticed the pin mark on the T-34 track in the front, this one will be covered with snow so it won't be visible anymore once finished. I've got some problems with the schurzen. They wrapped a bit after I sprayed them in primer. Hope I can fix this. Other than that, all goes slow but as planned.
Next the Tamiya figures in progress. Still lot of work to do:
And my Izba (small Russian farm/village house) in progress!
Hope you like it so far
endrju007
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Posted: Monday, December 17, 2007 - 09:55 AM UTC
Hi Martin,
It's beautifull so far - I love it already and I can't wait to see it done. What are you planning to make a roof of the cottage with? Is it going to be thatching or maybe roof tiles?
BTW is that cork you're using for the chimney? Recently I've build whole cobble-stone road with cork and I think it is quite usefull material.
Andrzej
It's beautifull so far - I love it already and I can't wait to see it done. What are you planning to make a roof of the cottage with? Is it going to be thatching or maybe roof tiles?
BTW is that cork you're using for the chimney? Recently I've build whole cobble-stone road with cork and I think it is quite usefull material.
Andrzej
Martinnnn
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Posted: Monday, December 17, 2007 - 10:08 AM UTC
Lol, had to look up the word thatching 
But that's indeed what I have in mind!
It's indeed cork I'm using. Very nice to work with, and you don't get the mess when you're carving plaster.
Martin
But that's indeed what I have in mind!It's indeed cork I'm using. Very nice to work with, and you don't get the mess when you're carving plaster.
Martin
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Posted: Monday, December 17, 2007 - 10:21 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Thanks for the replies
I cut the schurzen out of thin plastic sheet. I need some thin brass strip now to make the "hooks" on the schurzen so they hang on the frame....so some days of delay before I can get started with painting.
Meanwhile I checked my stash and found these two figure kits:
04090
Hi Martin looking good you could have your tank pulling a sledge with infantry figures
just like the ussr did ,
yours cyril
I started with the Tamiya kit, kinda old-school style but good enough for me. By now I used sand paper to remove the mold seams and I used some putty to fill the large gaps (especialy between the torso and legs putty is required).
By adding 9 infantry figures to the diorama I have in mind, I also think it might be a good idea to add a half track/personel carrier....Maybe a 250 or 251! Enough options with all the new Dragon and AFV kits
Martin
Blade48mrd
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Posted: Monday, December 17, 2007 - 11:04 AM UTC
Martinnnn -
This is looking super. All portions are pulling together the theme and adding to the diorama. Excellent details on the PzKpfw IV. I wouldn't worry about the 'warping' as the schurzen would receive wear & tear due to being taken off, put aside, etc. while running gear received maintenance and due to just being in use on vehicle. Bound to get bumped and banged around, and therefore being relatively thin, would show it. Look closely at the schurzen on the photo. I acyually think it adds to the battle used look and detailing. Great job and keep the updates coming.
Blade48mrd
This is looking super. All portions are pulling together the theme and adding to the diorama. Excellent details on the PzKpfw IV. I wouldn't worry about the 'warping' as the schurzen would receive wear & tear due to being taken off, put aside, etc. while running gear received maintenance and due to just being in use on vehicle. Bound to get bumped and banged around, and therefore being relatively thin, would show it. Look closely at the schurzen on the photo. I acyually think it adds to the battle used look and detailing. Great job and keep the updates coming.
Blade48mrd
petros
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Posted: Monday, December 17, 2007 - 11:22 AM UTC
Very nice built.
One comment.
The quality of Tamiya and Dragon figures is quite different and maybe is not a good idea to mix them together.
Dragon are much better.
cheers
petros
One comment.
The quality of Tamiya and Dragon figures is quite different and maybe is not a good idea to mix them together.
Dragon are much better.
cheers
petros
endrju007
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Posted: Monday, December 17, 2007 - 09:43 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Lol, had to look up the word thatching
It's indeed cork I'm using. Very nice to work with, and you don't get the mess when you're carving plaster.
Martin
I also had to check this word before asking
Polish word "strzecha" - thatching is not the word I use often in English... (this was the first time).Please make pictures of the next steps of cottage construction - I want to build a diorama with a one or more cottages and I'm checking all possible ways to build them. Your experience in that matter would be very helpfull.
Andrzej
Martinnnn
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Posted: Monday, December 17, 2007 - 10:36 PM UTC
Thanks for the comments guys
@ Pedro: with my painting skills I don't think the difference in detail will be seen
@ Andrzej: I'll try to make a lot in-progress pics so you can see if you like my method
Martin
@ Pedro: with my painting skills I don't think the difference in detail will be seen
@ Andrzej: I'll try to make a lot in-progress pics so you can see if you like my method
Martin
FalkeEins
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Posted: Monday, December 17, 2007 - 10:40 PM UTC
Hey Martin
..also following this build .. those skirts those look fine all bashed up and bent ....
..also following this build .. those skirts those look fine all bashed up and bent ....
Martinnnn
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Posted: Monday, December 17, 2007 - 11:18 PM UTC
Nice pic! Thanks for posting
endrju007
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Posted: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 - 01:27 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Very nice built.
One comment.
The quality of Tamiya and Dragon figures is quite different and maybe is not a good idea to mix them together.
Dragon are much better.
cheers
petros
Petros - I think that using figures from different producers gives you better diversity of figures poses, look etc. - figures from one company has usualy a tendency to look more or less alike.
I agree that Dragon is much better in comparison with most of figures manufacturers but the difference in qualty may be compensated by mentioned diversity.
Andrzej
endrju007
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Posted: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 - 01:45 AM UTC
Martin,
Did you start to work with your Friul model tracks already (you've mentioned them in the beginning)? I've purchased King Tiger tracks for other campaign, and it seems that in most of them holes for assembly (those holes in tracks you have to put the wire through) are closed - it meens a lot of work with microdrills for me.
Are your tracks in the same condition or am I just unlucky?
Andrzej
Did you start to work with your Friul model tracks already (you've mentioned them in the beginning)? I've purchased King Tiger tracks for other campaign, and it seems that in most of them holes for assembly (those holes in tracks you have to put the wire through) are closed - it meens a lot of work with microdrills for me.
Are your tracks in the same condition or am I just unlucky?
Andrzej
Martinnnn
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Posted: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 - 02:17 AM UTC
I assembled the tracks yes. I had to do some drilling but nothing more than normal. Guess you had bad luck!
Martin
Martin
Henk
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Posted: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 - 02:26 AM UTC
I'm doing a thatched roof on a MiniArt building at the moment, I'll upload a few pics later. I'm using 'plumberhemp', which is great.
Cheers
henk
Cheers
henk
endrju007
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Posted: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 - 03:17 AM UTC
Quoted Text
I assembled the tracks yes. I had to do some drilling but nothing more than normal. Guess you had bad luck!
Martin
Oh, bugger... in my case almost each and every link will need drilling.
Henk,
Using plumberhemp may look great - please post the picture as soon as you have it done.
.My friend used paintbrush hair once - it looked very good, very real.
Andrzej
Martinnnn
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Posted: Monday, December 31, 2007 - 02:54 AM UTC
New pics! I started painting the panzer in a dark yellow base coat. The pics don't really show how the tank looks in real, i.e. the pre-shading really turned out well but this isn't visible on the pics.
So, just to give you an idea....here are the pics anyway!
Base coat with preshading:
After a third and fourth coat of dark yellow (every time a bit lighter)
First gloss coat:
On to painting details, tracks etc, then some light weathering, then the white wash and then lot's and lot's more weathering
So, just to give you an idea....here are the pics anyway!
Base coat with preshading:
After a third and fourth coat of dark yellow (every time a bit lighter)
First gloss coat:
On to painting details, tracks etc, then some light weathering, then the white wash and then lot's and lot's more weathering
jvazquez
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Posted: Monday, December 31, 2007 - 03:30 AM UTC
Looks great!!
WARLORD
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Posted: Monday, December 31, 2007 - 06:28 AM UTC
Quoted Text
On to painting details, tracks etc, then some light weathering, then the white wash and then lot's and lot's more weathering
What kind of camo your going to paint? I'm asking because I'm afraid that great preshading woudn't be visible after all paint work and weathering. And the second question: are going to white-wash tracks' extra armour too or leave them painted in their natural colour?
Martinnnn
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Posted: Monday, December 31, 2007 - 06:40 AM UTC
Hi,
I'm going to leave the tank in dark yellow, so no brown or green patches. Base coat white wash will be sprayed with airbrush and then heavily weathered.
This will be something new for me, till now I always applied white wash with hand. But this time I want to make something more visual attractive than the rather rough look of hand applied white wash (although the last one is probably more realistic)
I will give the tracks also the white wash but still I will try to break the colour by using some rust etc here.
Martin
I'm going to leave the tank in dark yellow, so no brown or green patches. Base coat white wash will be sprayed with airbrush and then heavily weathered.
This will be something new for me, till now I always applied white wash with hand. But this time I want to make something more visual attractive than the rather rough look of hand applied white wash (although the last one is probably more realistic)
I will give the tracks also the white wash but still I will try to break the colour by using some rust etc here.
Martin
exer
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Posted: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 - 12:54 AM UTC
Good work Martin, I would be a bit concerned if I were that guy standing in the doorway of the Izba though -From my experience the lintel lies across the uprights and not between them, otherwise what's holding it up? (apart from your glue ) Hopefully the diagram explains
-From my experience the lintel lies across the uprights and not between them, otherwise what's holding it up? (apart from your glue ) Hopefully the diagram explains
endrju007
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Posted: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 - 05:28 AM UTC
Pat,
I've seen both options of lintel placing - on some buildings there was even no lintel as a separate piece of wood - two vertical pieces simply kept the upper timber sometimes just carved to fit.
In case of lintel placed between it was kept by inner "inlays" (like wooden pegs or something like that or by carvings of lintel and these vertical pieces (I have no idea what’s their name…)) - it was preassembled (exactly like Martin did here). It was supposed to keep the doorway in constant shape - just to be sure that the door you put into it now will fit in next two years. If the cottage tried to lean it also helped to keep at least one wall straighter.
If you want to have this issue solved by a professional I can ask some architect .
Andrzej
I've seen both options of lintel placing - on some buildings there was even no lintel as a separate piece of wood - two vertical pieces simply kept the upper timber sometimes just carved to fit.
In case of lintel placed between it was kept by inner "inlays" (like wooden pegs or something like that or by carvings of lintel and these vertical pieces (I have no idea what’s their name…)) - it was preassembled (exactly like Martin did here). It was supposed to keep the doorway in constant shape - just to be sure that the door you put into it now will fit in next two years
. If the cottage tried to lean it also helped to keep at least one wall straighter.If you want to have this issue solved by a professional
I can ask some architect .Andrzej
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