Thanks for the feedback, shouldn't be a problem to improve the door!
Meanwhile some more pics of the Panzer:
Next I'll paint the tools and add some light rusty colour to the tracks (both spares on the tanks as well on the fruils). Then on to weathering
Martin
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White Washed: Pzkfw IV ausf.H
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Posted: Friday, January 04, 2008 - 01:22 AM UTC
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Posted: Friday, January 04, 2008 - 10:36 PM UTC
Rusty colour! May look a bit too rusty but remember there's still a lot of work to do...washes, mud, white was etc
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Posted: Sunday, February 03, 2008 - 12:08 AM UTC
New Pzkfw IV pics. Once the schurzen are finished I will start with the winter camouflage
The Pz IV:
New schurzen in progress, made of thin brass sheet:
And the tracks. A bit too rusty I think, will work on that.
Feedback welcome!
Martin
The Pz IV:
New schurzen in progress, made of thin brass sheet:
And the tracks. A bit too rusty I think, will work on that.
Feedback welcome!
Martin
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Posted: Sunday, February 03, 2008 - 03:07 AM UTC
And with the new schurzen:
Martin
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Posted: Sunday, February 03, 2008 - 04:57 AM UTC
Great looking so far!!!
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Posted: Sunday, February 03, 2008 - 05:48 AM UTC
Hey Martin
Your dio is shaping up real nice. Are going to do a winter wash or am I wrong? The PzKfw is coming nice along I like the way you used that ref pic on your model. Looks nice!!!
Keep us posted
Grtz
Your dio is shaping up real nice. Are going to do a winter wash or am I wrong? The PzKfw is coming nice along I like the way you used that ref pic on your model. Looks nice!!!
Keep us posted
Grtz
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Posted: Sunday, February 03, 2008 - 09:59 AM UTC
Like what I'what Im seeing thus far, keep up the good work.
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Posted: Sunday, February 03, 2008 - 10:46 AM UTC
It looks a very nice project!
Look forward to see it finished!
Ciao
Tom
Look forward to see it finished!
Ciao
Tom
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Posted: Monday, February 04, 2008 - 02:49 AM UTC
Rust effects look very good so far.
Can't wait to see these schurzen finished. I've usually used parts out of box but I see that hand-made parts do the job much better. Vehicle looks more real this way...
Andrzej
Can't wait to see these schurzen finished. I've usually used parts out of box but I see that hand-made parts do the job much better. Vehicle looks more real this way...
Andrzej
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Posted: Monday, February 04, 2008 - 06:32 AM UTC
Thanks for the comments guys!
@ Roel: Yes, as you can see in the thread title this one is for the White Washed campaign
@ Andrzej: I usually stick to OOTB for most part but the schurzen are fairly easy to do and the results are rewarding when comparing to the Tamiya schurzen. Just take some thin brass sheet (a knife of siccors will easily cut through it), take the measurements from the Tamiya schurzen, scratch the attachment points and you're done. 30min work.
Martin
@ Roel: Yes, as you can see in the thread title this one is for the White Washed campaign
@ Andrzej: I usually stick to OOTB for most part but the schurzen are fairly easy to do and the results are rewarding when comparing to the Tamiya schurzen. Just take some thin brass sheet (a knife of siccors will easily cut through it), take the measurements from the Tamiya schurzen, scratch the attachment points and you're done. 30min work.
Martin
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Posted: Monday, February 04, 2008 - 02:25 PM UTC
Martin,
Thanks for advice!
I'll have to try it - I have one Stug IV already built with OOTB Tamiya parts - it's on the exibition right now but when I get it back I maybe give it a try...
I'm involved in three campaigns right now so there may be not enough time...
Andrzej
Thanks for advice!
I'll have to try it - I have one Stug IV already built with OOTB Tamiya parts - it's on the exibition right now but when I get it back I maybe give it a try...
I'm involved in three campaigns right now so there may be not enough time...
Andrzej
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Posted: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 - 08:48 PM UTC
Martin, brilliant work so far. I was just curious why you didn't go for the tracks with the ostketten and leave the skirts off?
Des
Des
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Posted: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 - 08:56 PM UTC
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Martin, brilliant work so far. I was just curious why you didn't go for the tracks with the ostketten and leave the skirts off?
Des
Well the main reason is because the skirts offer a large flat surface which is ideal for some nice white wash effects, weathering etc. So from a 'artistic' point of view I think the skirts offer the oppertunity to make something real nice out of it.
Another reason is financial. I already had normal fruils for the Pz IV and using them was of course cheaper than buying new ostketten!
Martin
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Posted: Friday, March 14, 2008 - 04:30 AM UTC
Hi all,
New pics, ready for white wash
Comments/feedback welcome!
Martin
New pics, ready for white wash
Comments/feedback welcome!
Martin
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Posted: Friday, March 14, 2008 - 06:08 AM UTC
Martin -
This is really coming along wonderfully, and the detailing is outstanding. It's almost a shame that you're going to cover up such a great job with the 'white-wash'. My Jagdpanther on the other hand benefits from being able to hide some flaws...lol. Keep us posted and hopefully I'll have an update soon.
Blade48mrd
This is really coming along wonderfully, and the detailing is outstanding. It's almost a shame that you're going to cover up such a great job with the 'white-wash'. My Jagdpanther on the other hand benefits from being able to hide some flaws...lol. Keep us posted and hopefully I'll have an update soon.
Blade48mrd
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Posted: Friday, March 14, 2008 - 06:26 AM UTC
Hi Mike,
Well I've been able to work on my white wash skills during a workshop by Phil Stutcinskas and Brian Murdoch which was really helpful. I was a bit unsure about covering my work so far with white wash as you also say but now I'm sure things will turn out fine.
We practiced on some sci-fi turrets by Forge World (nice stuff, very expensive though) Started without any paint. So after giving it a base coat....
And after the white wash it turned out like this. And believe me, with some washes and stuff it wil look pretty good
Hairspray method is great!
Well I've been able to work on my white wash skills during a workshop by Phil Stutcinskas and Brian Murdoch which was really helpful. I was a bit unsure about covering my work so far with white wash as you also say but now I'm sure things will turn out fine.
We practiced on some sci-fi turrets by Forge World (nice stuff, very expensive though) Started without any paint. So after giving it a base coat....
And after the white wash it turned out like this. And believe me, with some washes and stuff it wil look pretty good
Hairspray method is great!
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Posted: Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 07:02 AM UTC
Hi all,
Finally! White wash applied. Still a lot to learn but I think it went pretty well. Now on to adding white wash to the skirts, working a bit more on the camouflage and then....weathering time
Feedback most welcome!
Martin
Finally! White wash applied. Still a lot to learn but I think it went pretty well. Now on to adding white wash to the skirts, working a bit more on the camouflage and then....weathering time
Feedback most welcome!
Martin
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Posted: Monday, March 17, 2008 - 09:59 PM UTC
Martin,
Nice work, your white wash has very realistic look. Hit marks and paint splits on schurzen are also very realistic! .
Andrzej
Nice work, your white wash has very realistic look. Hit marks and paint splits on schurzen are also very realistic! .
Andrzej
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Posted: Monday, March 17, 2008 - 10:05 PM UTC
Thanks Andrzej! I still have to give the skirts some white wash.....tank will look complete again then.
I'm not 100% satisfied with the result myself....I think the worn effect is a bit too rough, should have been more subtile. I'll try to reach this effect by adding some effects by hand.
Also ordered some MIG pigments for mud....never used pigments for this so this will be interesting as well
I'm not 100% satisfied with the result myself....I think the worn effect is a bit too rough, should have been more subtile. I'll try to reach this effect by adding some effects by hand.
Also ordered some MIG pigments for mud....never used pigments for this so this will be interesting as well
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Posted: Monday, March 17, 2008 - 11:30 PM UTC
Martin,
I don't think that the worn effect may be too rough or not rough enough... Taking under consideration all possible variants, painting methods and paints that were used by Panzerwaffe the white wash and it's way to get worn may by any you can possibly imagine .
I tried to show a white wash achieved by painting the vehicle with lime using big brushes or even brooms...
Once again - nice job, I like it!
Andrzej
I don't think that the worn effect may be too rough or not rough enough... Taking under consideration all possible variants, painting methods and paints that were used by Panzerwaffe the white wash and it's way to get worn may by any you can possibly imagine .
I tried to show a white wash achieved by painting the vehicle with lime using big brushes or even brooms...
Once again - nice job, I like it!
Andrzej
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Posted: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 - 06:12 AM UTC
1 skirt down, 2 to go...
Feedback most welcome!
Martin
Feedback most welcome!
Martin
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Posted: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 - 08:58 AM UTC
I think you have mastered the hairspray technique already. I wouldn't change a thing.
-Matt
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Posted: Saturday, March 22, 2008 - 10:54 AM UTC
Great looking Pz before and after the white wash. If any of mine look half as good I will be very happy
Des
Des
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Posted: Thursday, March 27, 2008 - 01:26 AM UTC
New pics. Final steps will be:
- Chipping of inside turret skirts. Seems I forgot to add chips there...
- Pin wash
- Some rust & colour modification
- Mud with MIG pigments
Feedback most welcome!
- Chipping of inside turret skirts. Seems I forgot to add chips there...
- Pin wash
- Some rust & colour modification
- Mud with MIG pigments
Feedback most welcome!
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Posted: Sunday, March 30, 2008 - 05:15 AM UTC
Hi all,
Today I applied pigments to the model for mud. First time for me, and I took some pics of the process....
MIG has a number of ready-to-go sets which contain several pigments and acrylic resin. I bought the "Fresh mud" set to see if these sets are usefull for beginners like me:
The set contains 4 pigments and 1 bottle of 'acrylic resin' (no. P032). The pigments are:
- No. P033: Dark mud
- No. P034: Russian earth
- No. P026: Concrete
- No. P028: Europe dust
The set also contains a very brief instruction sheet, giving you just enough information to get started. However I advise beginners to take a look at example models and study articles in model magazines before getting started.
All the needed pigments in a jar. Above to the right is plaster (which you need to have yourself,not included in MIG set), the white stuff in the middle is the acrylic resin and the to the left are the pigments:
Mix the stuff with an old brush to get mud:
You can apply the mixture with an old brush to your model. This is where practice and experience pay off. Having none myself on this, I soon found out its important not to apply too much of this mixture at one and if something needs to be reworked or removed, you'd better do it fast! Perhaps you have more time to work on your mud when using i.e. white spirit for the mixture, I'll try this in the future. Still, the mixture creates realistic mud and is easy to work with.
The skirts where better. After the lessons learned on the hull I only applied small amounts and reworked them right away, creating the effects I wanted. The tracks also received some mud:
And here's the result. Overall I'm quite happy, but there's a bit more mud on the hull than I actually wanted. On the other hand, I think it doesn't look bad or unrealistic. I'm very happy with the results on the skirts, mud guards etc.
Next steps will be to try to rework the mud a bit by some carefull drybrushing here and there. Also 'll apply some snow on the model. Then it will be finished!
Feedback most welcome!
Hope you like it!
Martin
Today I applied pigments to the model for mud. First time for me, and I took some pics of the process....
MIG has a number of ready-to-go sets which contain several pigments and acrylic resin. I bought the "Fresh mud" set to see if these sets are usefull for beginners like me:
The set contains 4 pigments and 1 bottle of 'acrylic resin' (no. P032). The pigments are:
- No. P033: Dark mud
- No. P034: Russian earth
- No. P026: Concrete
- No. P028: Europe dust
The set also contains a very brief instruction sheet, giving you just enough information to get started. However I advise beginners to take a look at example models and study articles in model magazines before getting started.
All the needed pigments in a jar. Above to the right is plaster (which you need to have yourself,not included in MIG set), the white stuff in the middle is the acrylic resin and the to the left are the pigments:
Mix the stuff with an old brush to get mud:
You can apply the mixture with an old brush to your model. This is where practice and experience pay off. Having none myself on this, I soon found out its important not to apply too much of this mixture at one and if something needs to be reworked or removed, you'd better do it fast! Perhaps you have more time to work on your mud when using i.e. white spirit for the mixture, I'll try this in the future. Still, the mixture creates realistic mud and is easy to work with.
The skirts where better. After the lessons learned on the hull I only applied small amounts and reworked them right away, creating the effects I wanted. The tracks also received some mud:
And here's the result. Overall I'm quite happy, but there's a bit more mud on the hull than I actually wanted. On the other hand, I think it doesn't look bad or unrealistic. I'm very happy with the results on the skirts, mud guards etc.
Next steps will be to try to rework the mud a bit by some carefull drybrushing here and there. Also 'll apply some snow on the model. Then it will be finished!
Feedback most welcome!
Hope you like it!
Martin