Nice job Rob will keep an eye on it now that I have one coming.
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Dragon's 1/35 German sFH 18 Howitzer W/Limber
sgtreef
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Posted: Monday, August 03, 2009 - 11:42 PM UTC
Gorizont
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Posted: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 12:46 AM UTC
I like the good accuracy and fine details of the Dragon kit. Unfortunely their s10cmK18 is not available at this time. Its release was planned for... one year ago. 
Also the plastic-tires are a better choice, than the rubber parts on Trumpeterīs kit.
I didnīt read the whole text... which camo/ color did you planned for the gun?
greetings...
Soeren
Also the plastic-tires are a better choice, than the rubber parts on Trumpeterīs kit.
I didnīt read the whole text... which camo/ color did you planned for the gun?
greetings...
Soeren
alfa10
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Posted: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 04:51 AM UTC
Looking great. Makes me want to go out and get one, though I likely couldn't do the kit justice after seeing the job you're doing here. Keep it coming. 
GALILEO1
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Posted: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 06:50 AM UTC
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Nice job Rob will keep an eye on it now that I have one coming.
Thanks for the feedback, Jeff! I would love to see a build blog (or some picrtures) on yours when your get to work on it as I will be building at least one more of these in the trasport mode and I'll need all the inspiration I can get!
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I like the good accuracy and fine details of the Dragon kit. Unfortunely their s10cmK18 is not available at this time. Its release was planned for... one year ago.
Also the plastic-tires are a better choice, than the rubber parts on Trumpeterīs kit.
I didnīt read the whole text... which camo/ color did you planned for the gun?
greetings...
Soeren
Thanks Soeren! Didn't know that Dragon was set to release a K-18. Will be glad to see this one when it comes out though as I am sure will get one!
Regarding the camo, I'll do this one in the dark grey scheme as I really like this color on these guns.
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Looking great. Makes me want to go out and get one, though I likely couldn't do the kit justice after seeing the job you're doing here. Keep it coming.
Thanks for the nice comments. Get one, really, you'll like it! When these subassemblies are all put together the thing just looks awsome!!! I'll be getting another one and with that one I'll be "going to town" sort of speak as I will get the entire Griffon (or Aber) set for the gun and limber. Should be nice....
Rob
Gorizont
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Posted: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 07:53 AM UTC
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Thanks Soeren! Didn't know that Dragon was set to release a K-18. Will be glad to see this one when it comes out though as I am sure will get one!
Regarding the camo, I'll do this one in the dark grey scheme as I really like this color on these guns.
Hmm, last year in december I bought the Trumpeter version of the 10cm K18. A nice thing, but its "accurateness" is not really good.
I also like the dark-grey scheme on the guns, and painted (sprayed) my one in this color, after that I made a simple whitewash.
I think, I will buy another 10cm K18, when Dragon will release its version.
But another big-bang would be fine: Trumpeterīs new "17cm Kanone 18", which should be available in the next weeks.
greetings...
Soeren
GALILEO1
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Posted: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 03:21 AM UTC
Hi everyone, long time in between posts.
Anyway, I've been pretty busy (and at times frustrated) with this build but I am still making good progress on it despite the lack of pics.
After the wheels were done (above), I began work on step 7 and 8 (which pertains to the gun's base mount, all corresponding details, and attaching the break system to the base). I've got to say that this part of the build was by far the MOST difficult one for me as I had to clean up lots of mold lines that run right through very intricate detail. I ended up lossing some hex bolt detail on the upper portion of the base (right under the cog wheel travel piece) so I am waiting on an order for some hex rod from Plastruc to arrive to began work on restoring the lost detail.
Anyway, here are a few pics of this area.
Here the wheels have been dry-fitted
Here I dry-fitted the entire gun to the base to see how it looked.
While waiting for the Plastruc hex rods to arrive I decided to work on step 9 (spades). This step is made up of quite a few parts that need to go together to make up the entire piece. Although in the pics below they don't show that well, there are a few gaps that need to be filled in to give the entire piece that solid look. I decided that I'll be doing all the filling and sanding on these spades after I complete the remaining steps since I at this point I just want to move forward with the trail arms and the limber.
Pics of the spades
Lastly, here you can see the trails arms (step 10) which I will begin working on some time this week or on the weekend.
Anyway, this is were I am at this point. Getting closer to finishing the assembly section of the build so I'm quite excited about it.
Will post more as I progress. Thanks for watching.
Rob
P.S. sorry if the pics are a bit blurry. My camera sucks big time!!!!
Anyway, I've been pretty busy (and at times frustrated) with this build but I am still making good progress on it despite the lack of pics.
After the wheels were done (above), I began work on step 7 and 8 (which pertains to the gun's base mount, all corresponding details, and attaching the break system to the base). I've got to say that this part of the build was by far the MOST difficult one for me as I had to clean up lots of mold lines that run right through very intricate detail. I ended up lossing some hex bolt detail on the upper portion of the base (right under the cog wheel travel piece) so I am waiting on an order for some hex rod from Plastruc to arrive to began work on restoring the lost detail.
Anyway, here are a few pics of this area.
Here the wheels have been dry-fitted
Here I dry-fitted the entire gun to the base to see how it looked.
While waiting for the Plastruc hex rods to arrive I decided to work on step 9 (spades). This step is made up of quite a few parts that need to go together to make up the entire piece. Although in the pics below they don't show that well, there are a few gaps that need to be filled in to give the entire piece that solid look. I decided that I'll be doing all the filling and sanding on these spades after I complete the remaining steps since I at this point I just want to move forward with the trail arms and the limber.
Pics of the spades
Lastly, here you can see the trails arms (step 10) which I will begin working on some time this week or on the weekend.
Anyway, this is were I am at this point. Getting closer to finishing the assembly section of the build so I'm quite excited about it.
Will post more as I progress. Thanks for watching.
Rob
P.S. sorry if the pics are a bit blurry. My camera sucks big time!!!!
Gorizont
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Posted: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 03:55 AM UTC
Looks good so far!
Perhaps I also should wait with my Atlantic-wall-dio-project. (if I really should do this)
Soeren
PS: The pics are okay!
Perhaps I also should wait with my Atlantic-wall-dio-project. (if I really should do this)
Soeren
PS: The pics are okay!
GALILEO1
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Posted: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 05:45 AM UTC
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Looks good so far!
Perhaps I also should wait with my Atlantic-wall-dio-project. (if I really should do this)
Soeren
Thanks, Soeren!
You should go for this one first! I would love to see what you do with this gun!
Despite some frustration with cleaning up countless of mold lines from delicate details I really am enojoying this build. As this thing takes shape, I reallize how cool looking these guns really are!
Rob
koenele
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Posted: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 05:45 AM UTC
nice work man!
keep it coming!
keep it coming!
GALILEO1
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Posted: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 05:52 AM UTC
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nice work man!
keep it coming!
Thanks much, koen! Will post more as I progress...
Rob
Gorizont
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Posted: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 09:01 AM UTC
"You should go for this one first! I would love to see what you do with this gun!
Despite some frustration with cleaning up countless of mold lines from delicate details I really am enojoying this build. As this thing takes shape, I reallize how cool looking these guns really are!"
At first my idea was, to build my snow-scene with the 10cm K18 gun in 1/72 (Ace-models), later with a bigger 1/35 gun. (Dragon or Trumpeter)
I used the references by ACE-models, which gave some inspiration for other places and ideas.
They are all interesting, but an Atlanticwall-scene (including a shown photo), would be the "top" and so I have some extra work with that. It was fun, to build the dio and change all plans while building. So perhaps, I will do this.
And with Trumpeterīs announced 17cm K18 gun I also had an idea. AIso I have this in 1/72 scale from Ace. (like the 10cm K18)
So... I have a real problem.
greetings...
Soeren
Despite some frustration with cleaning up countless of mold lines from delicate details I really am enojoying this build. As this thing takes shape, I reallize how cool looking these guns really are!"
At first my idea was, to build my snow-scene with the 10cm K18 gun in 1/72 (Ace-models), later with a bigger 1/35 gun. (Dragon or Trumpeter)
I used the references by ACE-models, which gave some inspiration for other places and ideas.
They are all interesting, but an Atlanticwall-scene (including a shown photo), would be the "top" and so I have some extra work with that. It was fun, to build the dio and change all plans while building. So perhaps, I will do this.
And with Trumpeterīs announced 17cm K18 gun I also had an idea. AIso I have this in 1/72 scale from Ace. (like the 10cm K18)
So... I have a real problem.
greetings...
Soeren
GALILEO1
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Posted: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 02:51 PM UTC
Looks like you sure do have a problem there, Soeren!
Rob
Rob
sgtreef
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Posted: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 11:20 PM UTC
Coming along good.
Are those pin knockouts I see?
Crap hate that when they do that.
Looks good though.
Are those pin knockouts I see?
Crap hate that when they do that.
Looks good though.
Gorizont
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Posted: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 11:41 PM UTC
Are those pin knockouts I see?
Do you mean the small holes on the trailarms? These are places for the shovels and other tools, which get attached to the trailarms later.
greetings...
Soeren
Do you mean the small holes on the trailarms? These are places for the shovels and other tools, which get attached to the trailarms later.
greetings...
Soeren
GALILEO1
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Posted: Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 07:12 AM UTC
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Are those pin knockouts I see?
Where at, Jeff? On the trail arms? Let me know as I might have overlooked it somehow and may still have time to corrrect.
Thanks,
Rob
GALILEO1
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Posted: Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 07:17 AM UTC
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Do you mean the small holes on the trailarms? These are places for the shovels and other tools, which get attached to the trailarms later.
greetings...
Soeren
Thanks, Soeren!!! I was thinking Jeff was referring to the same things you mentioned (I hope so anyway otherwise I have some cleaning to do
Rob
Gorizont
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Posted: Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 07:39 AM UTC
Thanks, Soeren!!! I was thinking Jeff was referring to the same things you mentioned (I hope so anyway otherwise I have some cleaning to do
Hmm, as I saw, there are some marks on the spades. (P8110262.jpg)
But for comparison, on the side, where they attached to the trailarms, there are 4 marks. (P8110260.jpg) So perhaps, he meant these.
Iīm not sure with this.
Soeren
Hmm, as I saw, there are some marks on the spades. (P8110262.jpg)
But for comparison, on the side, where they attached to the trailarms, there are 4 marks. (P8110260.jpg) So perhaps, he meant these.
Iīm not sure with this.
Soeren
GALILEO1
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Posted: Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 08:16 AM UTC
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Hmm, as I saw, there are some marks on the spades. (P8110262.jpg)
But for comparison, on the side, where they attached to the trailarms, there are 4 marks. (P8110260.jpg) So perhaps, he meant these.
Iīm not sure with this.
Soeren
You mean these two pics?
If so, here is the real spade and all of the marks on the kit's spade seem to match the real thing (except for the two hallowed out wholes right at the front - which the kit just represented as two solid circles)
Hmm...Coming to think of it, I should have drilled those wholes for more 'realism'! Naw...this will do!
But thanks for checking on this thing with me. I guess we'll know where eaxctly if Jeff replies.
Rob
Gorizont
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Posted: Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 10:24 AM UTC
Yes, I meant these 2 pics. But as I see, there are no pinholes using the photos as a reference... just incomplete holes.
Hmm, I had take a look on my model kit, but its shovels are digged into the ground and will only removed, when I do some work on my dio. Also I glued the "hole-plates" onto the shovels, so the holes should not be visible.
So, real photos are the better solution.
greetings...
Soeren
Hmm, I had take a look on my model kit, but its shovels are digged into the ground and will only removed, when I do some work on my dio. Also I glued the "hole-plates" onto the shovels, so the holes should not be visible.
So, real photos are the better solution.
greetings...
Soeren
sgtreef
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Posted: Sunday, August 16, 2009 - 12:14 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Quoted TextHmm, as I saw, there are some marks on the spades. (P8110262.jpg)
But for comparison, on the side, where they attached to the trailarms, there are 4 marks. (P8110260.jpg) So perhaps, he meant these.
Iīm not sure with this.
Soeren
You mean these two pics?
If so, here is the real spade and all of the marks on the kit's spade seem to match the real thing (except for the two hallowed out wholes right at the front - which the kit just represented as two solid circles)
Hmm...Coming to think of it, I should have drilled those wholes for more 'realism'! Naw...this will do!
But thanks for checking on this thing with me. I guess we'll know where eaxctly if Jeff replies.
Rob
Yep those are the ones.
Wish I would of read more first that way I would not of had to make a print screen and Paint deal to show.
Carry on
Coming along great.
Good Dragon even got the marks right.
GALILEO1
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Posted: Sunday, August 16, 2009 - 02:06 PM UTC
Thanks for the feedback, Jeff!
Just wanted to make sure I didn't leave any obvious things left undone before I move on to the next steps...
Rob
Just wanted to make sure I didn't leave any obvious things left undone before I move on to the next steps...
Rob
GALILEO1
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Posted: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 06:00 AM UTC
Hi all,
I decided to add a little twist to the already twisted story of this build! While working on the trail arms I realized that the detail on some of the parts were done very simplistically (poorly actually) and that some small pieces did not fit as advertised. So, looking for a solution that would allow me to improve not only the fit but the looks of some of the parts I came up with this!
Griffon Model's s.F.H.18 Full Detail set
I realize that it may be a bit too much and that the assembly is really almost done. However, I realized that 1) I have not done too much work on the trail arms (besides installing small tid bits), 2) I have not worked at all on the limber, and 3) I still have access to almost ALL the areas where some of the PE peice would go.
Of course, not everything that can be replaced with PE will be (or would have been anyway even is this was the begining of the build since I NEVER use even half of any PE fret). My plan is just to pick areas (as in the trail arms, limber, and a few places here and there on the gun) I know I can acces easily and where the detail will really be worth the effort improving upon.
So, stay tune for more on this as it progresses. The set has been ordered and will get started on it as soon as it arrives. I realized I've just prolonged the build of this thing but since I won't be building this gun again any time in the near future I'd like to have a nice one to look at.
Thanks for putting up with this....
Rob
I decided to add a little twist to the already twisted story of this build!
While working on the trail arms I realized that the detail on some of the parts were done very simplistically (poorly actually) and that some small pieces did not fit as advertised. So, looking for a solution that would allow me to improve not only the fit but the looks of some of the parts I came up with this!Griffon Model's s.F.H.18 Full Detail set
I realize that it may be a bit too much and that the assembly is really almost done. However, I realized that 1) I have not done too much work on the trail arms (besides installing small tid bits), 2) I have not worked at all on the limber, and 3) I still have access to almost ALL the areas where some of the PE peice would go.
Of course, not everything that can be replaced with PE will be (or would have been anyway even is this was the begining of the build since I NEVER use even half of any PE fret). My plan is just to pick areas (as in the trail arms, limber, and a few places here and there on the gun) I know I can acces easily and where the detail will really be worth the effort improving upon.
So, stay tune for more on this as it progresses. The set has been ordered and will get started on it as soon as it arrives. I realized I've just prolonged the build of this thing but since I won't be building this gun again any time in the near future I'd like to have a nice one to look at.
Thanks for putting up with this....
Rob
Gorizont
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Posted: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 07:53 AM UTC
Thatīs a lot of metal !!!
We will see, which parts you will improve with them.
Iīm not familiar with so much pe-work. So this will be interesting for me!
All pictures, Iīve seen with a lot of metal parts, were... only fantastic. (including Griffon Modelīs photos)
I also planned to buy this set, when I buy Dragonīs howitzer.
(thats a lot of patience, which I have to have(?) for that)
Soeren
We will see, which parts you will improve with them.
Iīm not familiar with so much pe-work. So this will be interesting for me!
All pictures, Iīve seen with a lot of metal parts, were... only fantastic. (including Griffon Modelīs photos)
I also planned to buy this set, when I buy Dragonīs howitzer.
(thats a lot of patience, which I have to have(?) for that)
Soeren
GALILEO1
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Posted: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 08:40 AM UTC
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Thatīs a lot of metal !!!
We will see, which parts you will improve with them.
Iīm not familiar with so much pe-work. So this will be interesting for me!
All pictures, Iīve seen with a lot of metal parts, were... only fantastic. (including Griffon Modelīs photos)
I also planned to buy this set, when I buy Dragonīs howitzer.
(thats a lot of patience, which I have to have(?) for that)
Hi Soeren,
Yes, it sure is a lot of metal! I normally don't go this 'super detailed' route but I got so frustrated by the lack of details and the loose fit on a few parts on the trail arms specifically that I wanted to see if they could be replaced with something better. I am still considering, however, whether I should have gone with the Voyager set (a bit more basic) than this so I'll decide if I hold off on Griffon until I get another model or just go for it. Still thinking...
Rob
jvazquez
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Posted: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 09:45 AM UTC
Hey Rob nice build!!
I have one question. Did you run into any issues regarding the metal barrel or the front weighing the gun down and forward? Only reason I ask is because I did this kit about a year and a half ago and I had that problem. Even in the firing position it was weighed down, and I had to add lead weights inside the trailer arms so it would not tip.
I have one question. Did you run into any issues regarding the metal barrel or the front weighing the gun down and forward? Only reason I ask is because I did this kit about a year and a half ago and I had that problem. Even in the firing position it was weighed down, and I had to add lead weights inside the trailer arms so it would not tip.
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