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Campaign in the Pacific
grayghost666
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Posted: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 09:47 AM UTC
Hello All,
thanks for the great sites, They are what I need to get this Dio off the "ground"
You do not need to keep looking for me, again thanks for all the help, I was just looking for a photo of one coming in on final approach all shot up to post, Everyone else has a photo to go along with their Dio so I was just trying to do the same, Thats all.
Again thanks for all the info,
Cheers,
Bruce
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Posted: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 11:29 AM UTC
Bob, I only have one photo of an M5A1 late. It is outside Baguio and a sign post is partially covering it. If you have more you can share that would be great. I have tried but can't find a link with tank and vehicle serial numbers like I found for the SBD. There are lots of other aircraft at that link as well.

I also keep seeing photos of the WC51, but they are almost all from a distance or covered in mud. They usually have a covered bed. I have one in the stash (does three kits count as a stash?). I bought a pair of M18s to do a duo build with one son, and have a pair of P-47s to do the same with the other. I will see if they want to enlist with me. Maybe that can be an idea for a future campaign.
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Posted: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 02:52 AM UTC
Russ,
I can’t remember exactly where I got them but all are in the vicinity of where you’re looking.
All are from the 44th TB and here are the ones that look like the late type,


This is the link that will get the others but are all the early type but same TB.
I could only find one truck photo; I’m not big on trucks.

The only Hellcat Photo I know of, I’m also not big on Hellcat’s

No P-47’s at all.
And have any kits you’re not working on is a stash, be it one or a hundred.
Hope this helps,
Bob
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Posted: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 08:30 AM UTC
Bob, thanks for the help and the images. One of the photos in your link, second row, second image, shows M5A1 "Harry"(?). There is a cartoon face in a circle. That looks like the same image as is on the tank outside Baguio, only on the opposite side. Was it a common character to the tanks in that unit? The photo I have is in the green book series, from the pictorial record of the war against Japan. What book are these from?
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Posted: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 10:03 AM UTC
Actually that’s” Happy” and from no book that I’m aware of. I believe these were posted by someone involved with the 44th TB, I’m sorry I wish I could remember. Hopefully someone might recognize it and let us know. I would love to give proper credit for the photos.
The dog face appears to be an adaption of this 44th TB sign

They normally would have had it on both sides,
See isn’t researching a lot of fun.
Bob


You know this I believe is a late M5 also. The reasoning behind this is the turret, on this side if it was an early turret it would have a space in the middle where the grousers would go, the late M5 has this all the way across as in the photo. Which is the way it was described to me; how to tell the difference between the two looking at this side.

With that in mind the only other one that might be a late M5 is "Mike" 3rd from the last.
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Posted: Friday, November 06, 2009 - 03:32 AM UTC
Were up to 18 enlistments,
This is just an open invitation to everyone, any questions, anything needed, or anything you might like to look up, let us know.
Just a little over 4 weeks to the start of construction; 8 long months until the end. Remember there will be no extension past VJ day, when it’s over it’s over.
Our gallery space will be set up after the start of the campaign and thinking about it should we ask if it’s for just the finished photos or may some of you need a place to store in work photos? We can always work something out if needed.
Please remember, as I tell SWMBO, I do not read minds, Please ask if you have any questions.
Bob
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Posted: Friday, November 06, 2009 - 03:54 AM UTC

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Our gallery space will be set up after the start of the campaign and thinking about it should we ask if it’s for just the finished photos or may some of you need a place to store in work photos? We can always work something out if needed.
Please remember, as I tell SWMBO, I do not read minds, Please ask if you have any questions.
Bob



Everyone should have space to upload photos in the Kitmaker Gallery though there might be a limit. The campaign gallery is mostly used for built models but some people post in-progress photos, especially is something special is being done like scratch building of an interior that will mostly be hidden or hard to photograph once the model is completed. I certainly don't mind having in-progress shots, especially for those who enter so many campaigns that they reach their personal limit (assuming there is one).
gabo
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Posted: Saturday, November 07, 2009 - 07:45 AM UTC
Hi Bob:

Just to let you know that the mail arrive early today with the Stacks for the sherman!!!.. Thanks again for your kindness and I´m anxious to start this campaign,!!.

I will take a close look to the disk too!.

thanks!

Gabriel
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Posted: Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 11:51 PM UTC
hello,

I am new to the PTO but am currently planning a diorama and would like to get involved with this campaign.
However, I need some info on the Japanese Type 97 'late - revised turret' (Shinhoto chi-ha) as I plan to build Tamiya's kit (no. 35137) into a small dio.

I started a thread HERE to gather the info I need and got a couple of good responses, but need a little more, help and this appeared to be a good place to get it reading the posts so far.

In particular i'd like help with:

- Some turret interior reference photos/diagrams

- The colour of Japaese primer (I beleive this is and orange/red shade but would like confirmation?)

- Photos of the Shinhoto Chi-ha in action, particularly knocked out or in a hull-down defensive position.

Many, many thanks in advance,

James
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Posted: Monday, November 09, 2009 - 03:51 AM UTC
Gary, Thanks for clearing that up.

Gabriel, you’re welcome and I hope it was what you were looking for.

James,
I highly recommend the following references books;
Japanese Pacific Island Defenses

Japanese Armor

Tank Battles in the Pacific

I also placed a couple of references photos at this link location to help.
Sorry but I couldn’t find any interior photos.
Remember if you want this to be your entry into the Campaign you have to wait until Dec 7th before you can begin construction. And also a reminder to go to the Campaign page and enlist, if you decide to join in.
If nothing else I hope this helped,
Bob
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Posted: Monday, November 09, 2009 - 10:06 PM UTC
Bob,

You really have been most helpful!

I already have the first title on order and am expecting it soon. I will seriously consider the others too.
The reference pics you posted are excellent sources of inspiration and help, thank you.
Don't worry, I won't be starting anytime too soon as I have plenty on the bench to keep me occupied. I intend to free up some time between other builds and give this one a go and if so be assured i'll enlist and keep you posted with my progress.

Thanks again,

James
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Posted: Monday, November 16, 2009 - 02:52 AM UTC
Been a little quite lately.
I know everyone is piling up their items to get a good start on the 7th. I know I am, only have to get the decals or transfers but I have plenty of time for that.
We’re up to 20 enlisted, which is fine with me. I’d rather have 20 models and dioramas then 50 enlisted and only 10 actually making anything.
Remember any questions fell free and ask away.
When the Campaign starts I’ll be trying to come up with little History bits that happened during that week during the War.
Hope everyone has a great week,
Bob
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Posted: Monday, November 16, 2009 - 07:02 PM UTC
My two Stuarts arrived. Shopping now for the steel cleat tracks for the late version and I'll have to get a generic decal set as well. I won't be able to start these until January at the earliest but that will give me some time to get ready.
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Posted: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 - 08:45 AM UTC
Russ,
Let me know if you have a problem finding those 3 bar tracks you need, I might be able to come up with something if needed. And I have a drawer full of decals, I never seem to use the ones provided in the kits.
We have a whole 8 months on the Campaign; there is no rush at all.
Thanksgiving is coming up and with the Campaign starting in Dec I believe not too many will be starting until Jan anyway.
Remember to ask if anyone has questions or maybe wants a little info on their subjects.
Bob
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Posted: Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 05:09 AM UTC
here is my entry for the Pacific campaign






comments welcome

gaz
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Posted: Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 06:51 AM UTC

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here is my entry for the Pacific campaign


comments welcome

gaz



I'm afraid the campaign hasn't started yet. Finished models can't be entered (unless it's something special like the Tank Overhaul campaign). Unless the campaign leader allows it, you can't start building until the campaign starts.
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Posted: Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 08:06 AM UTC

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here is my entry for the Pacific campaign






comments welcome

gaz



Sorry Gary, I'm afraid Gary Kato is correct; we will not be able to except this for your entry. The campaign starts on Dec 7th.
However that is a nice looking M4.
The campaign will also require some sort of identified Reference to prove the entry was in the PTO and something else "I would also like to include the requirement of posting in work photos. This way we also will be able to share modeling techniques and help someone who might be having a problem." Please refer to the 1st page for specific items.

Now with all that said, we would still be interested if you were to update this model as long as you could meet the following requirements;

1. Strip off the current paint job.
2. Add on the items that are missing from the tank.
3. Correctly add the markings for the tank
4 Paint the tank as it originally looked
5. Explain why it was marked "Nightmare II, "LA" Bound via Kitano Point"
"It's more then just one place to another"

And just to help if you decide to do this;


Or if you prefer, just build another model in the specified time frames. We would like the opportunity to help so please ask if you have any questions.

Now if anyone that has enlisted in the campaign already objects to this I would like to hear your reasoning, or if you have an alternative idea for what can be done.

Thanks everyone and thanks Gary Kato for responding.
Bob
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Posted: Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 10:06 AM UTC
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1. Strip off the current paint job.
2. Add on the items that are missing from the tank.
3. Correctly add the markings for the tank
4 Paint the tank as it originally looked
5. Explain why it was marked "Nightmare II, "LA" Bound via Kitano Point"
"It's more then just one place to another"

And just to help if you decide to do this;


Or if you prefer, just build another model in the specified time frames. We would like the opportunity to help so please ask if you have any questions.

Now if anyone that has enlisted in the campaign already objects to this I would like to hear your reasoning, or if you have an alternative idea for what can be done.

Thanks everyone and thanks Gary Kato for responding.
Bob
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The requirements sound reasonable to me Bob.


Robert
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Posted: Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 01:28 PM UTC
Gary, didn't you build this tank back in 2007 (two years ago almost to the day incidentally)? I remember commenting on it (not).

https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/107638#887679
https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/109347#900646

You're a sneaky bugger mate.
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Posted: Friday, November 20, 2009 - 02:04 AM UTC
See Note below
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Posted: Friday, November 20, 2009 - 02:21 AM UTC
Good Morning Fellow Campaigners,

Although the campaign isn't underway yet, I wanted to post this bit of history. Sixty-six years ago this morning the 2nd Marine Division began its 76 hour assault on Betio, a fight which produced 4 Medal of Honor winnners (3 posthumous -- Lt. William Deane Hawkins, SSGT Bordelon, and Lt. Alexander 'Sandy' Bonneyman). Future Commandant of the Marine Corps Col. David Monroe Shoup, architect of the assault plan and CO of the 2nd Marines was the fourth and sole recipient to survive.

Also, here is a copy of an intel report from March 1944 about the Japanese defenses on Betio, I believe that the sketches are the work of SeaBee Larry Klatt who was tasked with preparing detailed drawings of the defense positions for use in training for later landings.

http://www.lonesentry.com/articles/jp-betio-island/index.html
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Posted: Friday, November 20, 2009 - 02:51 AM UTC
Thanks John for getting me back on track and beating me to the History announcements.

Excellent site by the way.

For the month of November;
November 1, 1943 - U.S. Marines invade Bougainville in the Solomon Islands.
November 2, 1943 - Battle of Empress Augustusta Bay. November 11, 1944 - Iwo Jima bombarded by the U.S. Navy. November 14/15 1942- U.S. And Japanese warships clash again off Guadalcanal resulting in the sinking of the U.S. Cruiser JUNEAU and the deaths of the five Sullivan brothers.
November 20, 1943 - U.S. Troops invade Makin and Tarawa in the Gilbert Islands.
November 23, 1943 - Japanese end resistance on Makin and Tarawa.
November 24, 1944 - Twenty four B-29s bomb the Nakajima aircraft factory near Tokyo

I was wondering how I was going to do this since the Campaign hadn't started but just doing it is as good as any.
For every other month of the Campaign I will post on the first day of the Month.
For December of course we have to start on the 7th.

Also if I miss something of if someone has an Historical note they want please do so just as John.
Thanks again,
Bob


Now that I have an extra minute;
Try this site Tarawa on the Web towards the bottom is a forum called Tarawa Talk forum, there are some excellent discussions there and some veterans from Tarawa also post, Ed Bale the commander of the Tank group just to drop a name.

Also for some items on Bougainville a good place to check out is US Marine Raiders

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Posted: Friday, November 20, 2009 - 05:51 AM UTC
As far as Mr. Cookson goes, I am leaning towards him just not knowing about campaigns. Although he has been on Armorama for a number of years and has been in several campaigns, he might still not have known exactly what campaigns are about. There are many things here that have to be learned by someone pointing it out. There is no Boot Camp when one signs up to show people how to upload or delete photos from the Kitmaker Gallery or getting said pictures to show in messages. Now he knows more about how Campaigns work and let us leave it at that.
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Posted: Friday, November 20, 2009 - 05:55 AM UTC
You're probably right Gary. Benifit of the doubt and all that.
Tis the season,
I'll return to my original offer of a remake of the model, if he is still interested.
Bob


Gary, if it was a mistake on his part he has been pretty quiet about it, I'm tending to lean more to what I thought it was.
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Posted: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 - 07:36 AM UTC
12 days to go and I can start cutting plastic, I am getting anxious and can already smell the burned plastic card and glue. WOW that headache that I have had will finally go away. Does this mean that I have a psychological attachment to plastic and glue fumes? Oh well its all good, with the child gone (for 16 years) and no grandchildren close by and no wife my freinds in all of those boxes take up all of my time until school starts in Feb. Ha
Ok I am ready to start Bob.

Robert