Nevada, United States
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Posted: Sunday, September 26, 2010 - 06:11 AM UTC
Good stuff happening here for sure.
Looking good Tony, those tracks really are easily modified aren't they?
Brad you have really done it up right.
Graham nice clean build there. IIRC Sicily is fairly temperate with rocks and dense soil. It is volcanic in origin so you should be ok with light dust.
After yet another hectic week I have tweaked Doris and I'm calling her finished. I added a water can and made a Marine Corps helmet from the spares supplied in the Tamiya kit. I took the bare steel helmet and added a cover made from tissue and diluted white glue. Painted, and with a fine wire chin strap, I feel it looks the part.
Enjoy!
G
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#020
Illinois, United States
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Posted: Sunday, September 26, 2010 - 06:35 AM UTC
Wayne,
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After yet another hectic week I have tweaked Doris and I'm calling her finished. I added a water can and made a Marine Corps helmet from the spares supplied in the Tamiya kit. I took the bare steel helmet and added a cover made from tissue and diluted white glue. Painted, and with a fine wire chin strap, I feel it looks the part.
I love the way you did the helmet. I never would of thought about the tissue concept. I used tissue for constructing a rock wall. Worked fantastic. Gave it the right texture and really holds the paint nice.
Did you construct the sandbags with epoxy sticks?
Mike
"The price of freedom is eternal vigilance."
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Nevada, United States
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Posted: Sunday, September 26, 2010 - 06:51 AM UTC
Mike I used Apoxie Sculpt, a two part putty that cleans up with water. I mixed it then rolled it out. After that I cut sections and molded them by hand, using a knife blade to scribe the stitching and what not. As a final touch I took an old T shirt and stretched the fabric over my finger. I then lightly pressed the putty leaving a faint texture.
That was the first time I tried that and I am pleased, no shocked, at the results!
G
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Quebec, Canada
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Posted: Sunday, September 26, 2010 - 09:24 AM UTC
Jeese ..A guy goes to work for a few hours and wow!
Great work guys !
#020
Illinois, United States
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Posted: Sunday, September 26, 2010 - 12:14 PM UTC
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Mike I used Apoxie Sculpt, a two part putty that cleans up with water. I mixed it then rolled it out. After that I cut sections and molded them by hand, using a knife blade to scribe the stitching and what not. As a final touch I took an old T shirt and stretched the fabric over my finger. I then lightly pressed the putty leaving a faint texture.
That was the first time I tried that and I am pleased, no shocked, at the results!
G
Wayne,
Thanks for that info. I was also looking at the sand bags and wondered if there was some sort of texture on them. The t-shirt idea sounds good!
Also wondering if there is a set size to sand bags?
"The price of freedom is eternal vigilance."
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Nevada, United States
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Posted: Sunday, September 26, 2010 - 01:18 PM UTC
I know there is, but for the life of me I cannot remember what. I eyeballed the entire project based on photos.
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Queensland, Australia
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Posted: Sunday, September 26, 2010 - 07:34 PM UTC
oh ok thanks Wayne ill use that an maybe thro a little volcanic dirt at too LOL.
yours looks great too i like the sand bags they look cool, little update on mine but no pics maybe tomorrow i got the camo on and cleared it ready for washes tomorrow.
cheers,
Graham
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Bayern, Germany
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Posted: Sunday, September 26, 2010 - 08:15 PM UTC
@bradley: woah, that antenna base looks the part! you're not thinking of doing this commercialy ?
@michael: really wonderful finish, love the dust!! How'd you do it? Pigments with water?
and please, everyone, enlighten me: i always thougtht the kind of mantle on Michales M4A3 is an early one belonging to an M4 or M4A1. So this is...what? an M34whatnot gun mount and used on...? what a maze this shermy business....
@wayne: really wonderful work! this sandbag magic of yours will really look the part on an ETO Sherm!! next to a Gen. Patton roaring at the crew...
again: awesome work!
@jay: one thing i sometimes like to do with tool handles is paint them with PanzerAces New Wood, which is basically a bright orange-brown. Gives it a nice deep hardwood look. Or you paint the handles with Tamiya Buff and glaze them a few times with Clear Orange. It's really exagerated and more fitting to museum vehicle but, boy oh boy, does it contrast nicely with the OD!! And of course you can blend that down with weathering to your liking...
If thou art pained by any external thing, it is not this that disturbs thee, but thy own judgment about it.
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#020
Illinois, United States
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Posted: Sunday, September 26, 2010 - 10:30 PM UTC
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@michael: really wonderful finish, love the dust!! How'd you do it? Pigments with water?
and please, everyone, enlighten me: i always thougtht the kind of mantle on Michales M4A3 is an early one belonging to an M4 or M4A1. So this is...what? an M34whatnot gun mount and used on...? what a maze this shermy business....
Leo,
I used Mig Pigment's "Thinner for Washes" to achieve the dusty look. I applied "Allied Green" pigment first then added the wash to let it spread out. I followed that up with a paint brush and pulled the wet surface in a direction I thought any rain water would flow to give a streaking effect. When this dried I went back over it to remove any areas of "Allied Green" that were too heavy. The "Thinner for Washes" spreads the pigment out nicely and when dry lets you remove some if needed. Not to be confused with the "Pigment Fixer"! I then followed that up with Europe Dust and Russian Earth.
I should mention that before I used the pigments I applied an overall oil wash, followed up with spot washes. I then applied oils to represent stains around the fuel intakes and some general oil spots on the back deck.
Overall I’m happy with the results. Next up I will tackle a muddy tank using pigments.
As to the mantel type I have no idea. The model is build straight from the Tamyia kit. I have no idea on different types.
Mike
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Missouri, United States
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Posted: Monday, September 27, 2010 - 12:03 PM UTC
Something else to go on my list of first, painting tracks. Can't believe I didn't make a total mess of these things.
Hope you approve of them.
Tony the Mutt
Texas, United States
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Posted: Monday, September 27, 2010 - 01:26 PM UTC
Wow this thread moves fast! A lot of good work and sweet tips finding there way into this campaign. Lookin' forward to starting my build soon
Nevada, United States
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Posted: Monday, September 27, 2010 - 01:36 PM UTC
Whoaaaa!
Tony those look good!
G
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Ohio, United States
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Posted: Monday, September 27, 2010 - 05:35 PM UTC
Tony,
That thing looks like one could jump in, fire up the engine, and drive off!!
And G, Doris is looking good!
United States
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Posted: Monday, September 27, 2010 - 05:44 PM UTC
Man, what a great campaign!
Mike, superb finish!
Wayne, Doris is a beauty! I love what you've done.
Tony, the Priest is awesome. I love the tracks!
Victoria, Australia
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Posted: Monday, September 27, 2010 - 09:12 PM UTC
Great work by all.
I have more family issues I'm dealing with, so I haven't spent time looking through the posts from the last few days.
Hopefully I can catch up with all of the great progress in the next day or so,
Cheers and keep up with all of the awesome posts and pics !
Paul
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Queensland, Australia
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Posted: Monday, September 27, 2010 - 09:58 PM UTC
hiya guys heres little update, camo's on and first pin wash
will do the rest once i make the sand guards and get them painted to same stage.
a question for u sherman gurus, this thing has H bar tracks are they all metal or do they have rubber pads? im thinking paint em black base first then weather them?
cheers,
Graham
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Victoria, Australia
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Posted: Monday, September 27, 2010 - 10:07 PM UTC
Hey looking good Graham. Probably just me, but I would swoop the right turret side camouflage on a gradual curve instead of the right angle it takes before heading to the turret top?
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a question for u sherman gurus, this thing has H bar tracks are they all metal or do they have rubber pads? im thinking paint em black base first then weather them?
cheers,
Graham
Do you mean the waffle style WE 210 tracks? Double 'I' type... These were rubber block tracks, so treat 'em as you would T48 style.
Brad
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Queensland, Australia
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Posted: Monday, September 27, 2010 - 11:39 PM UTC
thanks brad , yeh i thought that bit of camo looked wierd
lol i tryed to follow the instruction sheet but forgot to touch that bit up i try na remember to fix it up.
yeh not sure what ya call those tracksthey look like an H on its side
, i also say some pics of kiwi shermans in italy they have same tracks but ni sand shields and form what ive read so far we had M4A2's so maybe we leased them from the us rather the brits as they had mostly mkIII's didnt they ? plus the firefly.
only reference i can find to the firefly is we had the VC not the 1C but theres not a lot of diff is there? shermans are new to me they aint my fav tank lol but im begining to like em there fairly easy to build so far.
cheers,
Graham
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Victoria, Australia
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Posted: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 - 03:23 AM UTC
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what ive read so far we had M4A2's so maybe we leased them from the us rather the brits as they had mostly mkIII's didnt they ? plus the firefly.
only reference i can find to the firefly is we had the VC not the 1C but theres not a lot of diff is there? shermans are new to me they aint my fav tank lol but im begining to like em there fairly easy to build so far.
cheers,
Graham
Hey Graham the KiwiShermans would have come from British stock/supply, as the US Army did not favour the diesel engined M4A2 in combat, and most all were LendLease to Britain and Russia. I won't say much more as I'm talking through my hat with Commonwealth anythings (the shame!) but the Firefly question I can probably answer... The IC is based on a hybrid hull, which had a curved cast font section and welded remainder, whereas the VC was an all welded square sided affair...I think
Brad
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Quebec, Canada
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Posted: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 - 01:35 PM UTC
Hi Graham ...the NewZealanders were mostly equiped with the Sherman III (M4A2) , They did receive M4Hybrid and ShermanVC fireflies and they also got some ShermanIB's in 45..
I just noticed a couple of things on your sherman ..first is you forgot the vane sight on the right front corner of the turret and one of your rear lifting hooks has broken off or has dried crooked .
Love these Italian front camo schemes ,sure is different from plain ole OD ...Good job on that.
Keep the pictures coming,can't wait to see this one all weathered up!!
Queensland, Australia
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Posted: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 - 06:35 PM UTC
Hi guys thanks , oh so the M4A2 is the mkIII ok that makes sense as i read we only had something like 150 shermans give or take.
yeh Richard i forgot to stick it on LOL i was thinking about doing it then went right outta me head this gettin old crap sucks
its good to know you guys know something about these things im more knowledgable on aircraft (bieng a pilot) but always had a thing for tanks as well.
i'll try an get some more done this weekend after the hold & fold gets here its the best way to do the sand shields.
cheers,
Graham
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Utrecht, Netherlands
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Posted: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 - 07:33 AM UTC
Missouri, United States
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Posted: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 - 07:45 AM UTC
Whoa Martin that one going to be a killer too when finished.
Tony the Mutt
Nevada, United States
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Posted: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 - 02:51 PM UTC
Martin that is sharp looking already!
Did you make the seabag that is resting on the front fender?
G
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Ohio, United States
Joined: August 26, 2010
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Posted: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 - 06:11 PM UTC
Ok, as I've never done a armor model I'm not sure what to do with my clear tail lights. Do I attach them before or after painting and is there a certain way to paint them? Need some advice as they don't tell me what color to paint and what not. Thanks and looking forward to hearing from you.
