Tom, welcome to the campaign. Chosin sounds good to me, looking forward to it. Don't forget to sign up on the campaign page here.

Bob, as for a 2IC, I think you're right, I should ask Bruce to be my XO, just as in the 48th scale campaign. What do you think, Bruce?

On a side note: Apparently it is impossible to make this campaign appear on the campaign pages of all the sites so I hope all interested in participating will find it here on Armorama. I have posted in all the relevant forums about it.

Cheers!
Stefan

Hello Stefan,
Yes, I will be your XO for this campaign.
You know, guys when they call for volunteers it would be nice if all of you did not take a step back while I was not looking.
For the last 3 days I have looked through about 250+ boxes of books, in 4 storage units, looking for more info about the M 41. So far all I have found is a memo about the shipping of 30 M 41 to Korea November 1952. I am closing in on a shipping list of the freighter that carried them. It should have also a list of the crewmen of the tanks(I Hope)along with what supplies were sent with them IE: engines, tracks, radios, etc.
I also found another report from a supply unit that reported that they had done the cammo and put on the sides PTC in white letters near the rear left with numbers 1-30 on them along with the usual ID # and other markings.
I have another 20+ storage units to go through and another few thousand box to look through. But I will keep looking
Is there anything else anyone needs me to look for, for this campaign. If so let me know.
I am also scaning the titles of the books as I go, So I should know what book is in what box in which storage unit.
Cheers,
Bruce
PS I will be gone for a day or two. A large book store is closing and I what to see what they have. Plus I need more books, I just do not have enought of them.
Cheers

Bruce, thanks for the efforts and the time that you have spent on my behalf you can now stop looking. Stefan has Ok'ed the M41 as long as the markings are appropriate for the area.

Bob

OK, Stefan, I'll behave and play in the same sandbox with the tread guys. Actually, I'll play above the sandbox with my F2H-2P wingy photo thingie.

Please count me in, however I do have a slight problem...
I was considering taking my last remaining Italerai M24 out of stock and building either an M19 GMC or an M37 HMC, probably the latter. However I have just obtained a built but badly finished example for a song.


However the rules and regs say that the kit must be unstarted before 01/01/11 and this clearly has been.
So as I will likely only use the cut down lower hull and the glacis plate and replace the tracks and drive wheels will it be ok to use. Has anybody any problems, I will happily use the new kit if there are any concerns.
Sorry if this sounds petty but I wanted things clear before the off.
Paddy

mecanix, from my perspective I'm willing to make an exception here as you will only use the hull. No use starting a perfectly good kit when you have this old hog at the ready...

Any objections? Please post them here or forever remain silent...

Cheers!
Stefan

In Squadron Signal's monthly sale is a very useful book for the Armor modelers in this campaign:

Armor in Korea: A Pictorial History

[url=http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=SS6038[/url]

the price ? 2 Bucks !!!!!

Ian

Hey all,

I've acquired an Academy M36 that I'd like to build as a Korean-war M36B2 for the campaign. All the parts are there, but can anyone tell me who was using the B2 (US, ROK?) and point me to a picture for markings? The only one I've seen where the engine deck can be seen is an M36. Also, would the B2 have had the hull MG?

Tom

Hello Tom,
Of the 2 photos I have of the M36 B2 one shows it with a hull MG and the other shows it not having one, The one with the MG has an open top the other one has a closed top.
From all the info I have it does not show that the ROK had any of them, But I will keep looking for more info for you.
HTH,
Cheers,
Bruce

Hello Bob,
I found a partial manifest from a freighter showing it sailed to Korea in mid September with 8 M41's with crew members and pallets of ammo, spare parts and other items for the Army fighting in Korea. I am looking for a passenger list for the freighter to list the crew members for the M41's. I know the M41's were Ok'ed, But I am getting some more info about them so I can pass on the Knowledge to any who wants it.
Cheers,
Bruce

Thanks Bruce for the super human effort. Now all I have to accomplish is the next (2) semesters of accounting

Bob

Hey why are you guys setting the start time so far out???
I thinks this is a GREAT campaign. My Dad served in Korea. Guess what I have an M46 ready...so LETS BUILD!!!!
ESSAYONS
Wes

The start time is set so far ahead because there are 15 campaigns going on right now and a lot of people are swamped with building (and Real Life). It's going to stay like that until January. Take a look at the Campaign Schedule.

Oh wow, you guys DO have a full schedule. So I could almost say, Jan 2011, is early. I haven't been involved with this type of stuff, and it looks to be alot of fun. Thanks!!!
ESSAYONS
Wes

Bruce,

Many thanks on the M36B2! I've got a while to narrow it down, so I might have to hit the books myself. (My own limited references only show one B2 in Korea, crewed by the US and from the rear so no MG detail. The ROK ones in my books are sadly a straight M36...)

I just thought the diesel version would stand out more, but I can build it for gasoline. (I'd love to do it as the RBCEO M36B2, but Indochina is a bit off-topic!)

Tom

Hello Tom,
My referance books show that in 1945 some M36b2 were converted to diesel engines about 300 of them . Also the aux engine was in the main engine area it was a 1 cycinder engine to help with the start up's.
If you need anymore help let me know,
Cheers,
Bruce

Well now, you been at it again! Nice to see this thread is active even though the start of the campaigh is still 6 months off...

Here are some suggestions for ribbons. I'm not very good at this so if anyone has a better idea please feel free to post it. Tell me what you think about them and which one you prefer:

First one is based on the one of the last Korean War Campaign and I don't really know what the significance is:



Second and third ones are abit boring, the UN Korea Service medal with "Korea" superimposed on it:




Fourth one is based on the Korean Service medal as well and has the stripes so often seen on the F-86 on it:



And the last one combines the two national flags of the Koreas:



Cheers!
Stefan

PS: We're at 25 participants, not bad for 6 months ahead of the start date!

Stefan, I like the first ribbon.

Bob

The Korean War started on 25 June 1950, almost 60 years ago. In what I hope to make a monthly historical contribution to the campaign, I bring you the first installment of events leading up to the Korean War:

1910 - Japan annexes Korea after the Russo-Japanese War.

1919 - Syngman Rhee founds the Provisional Korean Government in Shanghai; Korean communists start internal and external fight against Japan.

1937 - Japan starts cultural assimilation of the Korean people by banning Korean language, literature and culture as well as Korean given names.

1941-1945 - Korean Nationals fight in the Burma campaign; communists (led by Kim Il-sung) fight the Japanese in Korea. Japan conscripts 2.6 million Koreans as forced labor.

July 1945 - At the Potsdam conference the Allies decide to divide Korea into two occupation zones along the 38th parallel, a Russian zone in the north and an American zone in the south.

9 August 1945 - Russia declares war on Japan.

26 August 1945 - Russian forces halt at the 38th parallel as per the agreement.

8 September 1945 - Lt. Gen. John R. Hodge, U.S. Army, arrives at Inchon to accept the Japanese surrender south of the 38th parallel. Hodge is appointed military governor and reinstates Japanese administrators to control the country.

December 1945 - The US-USSR Joint Commission decides to grant independence to Korea after a 5-year trusteeship. Each side supports factions with its own ideology.

31 March 1948 - Contrary to the agreement general elections are held in South Korea which establish an anti-communist government led by Syngman Rhee.

15 August 1948 - The Republic of Korea (ROK) is founded in the south. Meanwhile the USSR establishes a communist government in the North, the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK).

1948 - Russian Forces withdraw from Korea, leaving behind a well equipped North Korean People's Army (NKPA).

1949 - American Forces withdraw from Korea, leaving behind an ill-equipped South Korean army.

1948 - 1950 - Continuous border clashes between NKPA and ROK-forces establish the 38th parallel as a hot zone in the beginning Cold War. Both sides intend to reunite Korea under their governments.

I hope to bring the next installment covering June 25th - 30th on Saturday.

Cheers!
Stefan

Stephan,

Thanks for the history. I've been to Korea about 10X in the last 15 years, so I have some familiarity with the area.

Put me down for ribbon 2 or 4.

hey guys am looking foward to this campaign have got a AFV club M115 howitzer that I have been waiting for a excuse to build. hope we are all well

Stefan,

My dad was one of those troops pulled out just before the shooting started - you don't think he annoyed the DPRK on his way out?...

Tom

So Gentlemen, today is the 60th Anniversary of the beginning of the Korean War. Lest we forget!

So here are the events of June 1950:

25 June 1950 - Under the guise of a counter attack, NKPA-forces cross the 38th parallel and begin an all-out offensive to conquer the South and advance rapidly. The United Nations Security Council unanimously condemns the attack only hours later (with the USSR boycotting all meetings since January 1950).
NKPA forces comprise 231,000 soldiers, 274 T-34/85 tanks, some 150 Yak fighters, 110 attack bombers, 200 artillery pieces, 78 Yak trainers, and 35 reconnaissance aircraft. In addition to the invasion force, the North Korean KPA has 114 fighters, 78 bombers, 105 T-34-85 tanks, and some 30,000 soldiers stationed in reserve in North Korea.
In contrast, the ROK Army has 98,000 soldiers (65,000 combat, 33,000 support), no tanks, and a twenty-two piece air force comprising of liaison and training airplanes. There are no large foreign military garrisons in Korea.

27 June 1950 - US President Harry S. Truman orders US air and sea forces to help South Korea. The United Nations Security Council recommends member states military assistance to the ROK.

28 June 1950 - NKPA troops capture Seoul.

30 June 1950 - First foreign (US) ground troops arrive on Korean soil.

About 12 years ago on one of my trips to South Korea, my hosts pulled over to a roadside park. The park held a memorial to a small unit (platoon/company) of the US Army that had held the spot, a small pass, for some period (a day?) on June 25 before being overrun. I'm assuming it was a small unit because the signs I could make out only mentioned a lieutenant and several enlisted men. My hosts were very reverent at the site, clearly what these men had done affected these people nearly 40 years later.

Stefan
I think the third or the last one, are the best.
Tom