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How to model a T-54
M4A1Sherman
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Posted: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 - 08:05 PM UTC

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The Type-62 was the smaller version of the Type-59. I am in process of doing a review of the Trumpeter kit.

For the NVA question, as of right now, there is no consensus on if there were only Type-59, only T-54, or a mix. Since there is no OOB ready Type-59, take a leap and build a T-54 as one.



I'm inclined to agree with the above, but I WOULD like to find out which tanks the NVA used during the Vietnam War.

Just a comment- Some years ago, I converted a TAMIYA T-55 into a T-54 by using the SP DESIGNS T-54 Conversion. I'm not sure (not being a dyed-in-the-wool Russo-Soviet fan) if the SP DESIGNS Conversion is 100% "spot-on". Maybe someone can set me straight? Comments, anyone?
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Posted: Thursday, May 12, 2016 - 09:17 PM UTC
In my Albert Grandolini books, he identifies pictures as T-54s, T-55s and Type-59s. Unfortunately, he also identifies a KRAZ 214 as a 255, and an M-123 10ton with D-7 dozer as an M-818 5 ton with D-8 dozer, so not sure how to take his captions as gospel. Wayne
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Posted: Friday, May 13, 2016 - 05:17 PM UTC

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In my Albert Grandolini books, he identifies pictures as T-54s, T-55s and Type-59s. Unfortunately, he also identifies a KRAZ 214 as a 255, and an M-123 10ton with D-7 dozer as an M-818 5 ton with D-8 dozer, so not sure how to take his captions as gospel. Wayne



Hi, Wayne!

Well, if Mr.Grandolini can mis-identify FIVE different vehicles, that kind of thing doesn't make his other identifications very reliable-

In fairness to Mr.Grandolini, it could be (this is CONJECTURE on my part) that the pictures themselves weren't of sufficient quality for him to make positive IDs, in which case he COULD have written something like this in his captions:

"These vehicles could be such-and-such, or so-and-so..."

In which case, writing his captions in that manner would have called his credibility into question, right off the bat. (?)

I'm sure the books are informative and entertaining, otherwise.

Thanks for answering...
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Posted: Saturday, May 14, 2016 - 07:30 PM UTC
Dennis - The SP Designs T-55 turret you bought was from production that took place around 2000. At that time it was intended to address the newly (to many of us) notion that the main gun was not perfectly centered in the turret. However, reference material of the T-55 at that time was...well, less intensive than it is now. It was a good-faith effort for the time, but is badly out of date now. The T-55M5 kit that is currently produced is probably 4 generations ahead of that old turret, and it shows.

As for vehicle ID in pictures...always troublesome at best unless you have more than one photo. And with deadlines etc...sometimes mistakes are made.
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Posted: Wednesday, July 20, 2016 - 01:05 AM UTC
I just picked up Takom's T54B at the LHS. Were the B models used by other Warsaw Pact members ? If so, are there country specific alterations ? AND, anybody make Warsaw Pact decals that would work ?
Thanks in advance !
Tom
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Posted: Thursday, October 26, 2017 - 04:23 AM UTC
Found another good site. I'm planning on using the Miniart kit to represent the main photo. I have a little more research as to what the gun is sitting on and what color the supports are.? Looks like it will be a good way to show off the interior.

https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/289581-1950-show-down-t-54-%D0%BE%D0%B1%D1%801949-vs-m46-vs-centurion-mk-iii/
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Posted: Thursday, October 26, 2017 - 07:58 PM UTC
Matthew, what you're seeing is the standard gun change procedure for the T-54/55 & Type 59/69 tanks. The link will give you the information you are missing, I uploaded the images to WeTransfer as I cant seem to do it to here https://we.tl/PDqoccCtaA
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Posted: Friday, October 27, 2017 - 08:56 AM UTC

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Matthew, what you're seeing is the standard gun change procedure for the T-54/55 & Type 59/69 tanks. The link will give you the information you are missing, I uploaded the images to WeTransfer as I cant seem to do it to here https://we.tl/PDqoccCtaA



Thanks Tim. This is going to be fun.
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Posted: Monday, December 18, 2017 - 04:03 AM UTC
I have some friends that bought a tank from a museum in Oregon. They are starting to work on it to get it back into running condition. Can you guys help ID it at all. Country, model variant, upgrade, etc. I do not have any interior pictures. I think it is a T-54 with the turret ventilator filled in, upgraded starfish wheels, D-10TS gun, rear fuel barrels added, but that is all I know or think I know.







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Posted: Monday, December 18, 2017 - 05:59 AM UTC
At first glance it appears to be a Czech T-54 remanufactured into T-55. I'm not the best at spotting sub-variants, though. Good catch on the filled in ventilator, it would have been hard to tell it was ever T-54 without.
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Posted: Monday, December 18, 2017 - 10:14 AM UTC

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At first glance it appears to be a Czech T-54 remanufactured into T-55. I'm not the best at spotting sub-variants, though. Good catch on the filled in ventilator, it would have been hard to tell it was ever T-54 without.



Thanks. I never know how you guys tell Czech, Polish, and Russian variants apart. I have seen Polish and Czech ones in person and they "feel different," but I could not tell you why.

Anyways, then this tank may be a Czech T-54M, the Czech, not Russian, upgrade of the T-54A. Does that seem right?
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Posted: Monday, December 18, 2017 - 06:07 PM UTC
It might be Polish-built, the way to tell is the engine deck and there isn't one there to tell. Also the bracing on the inside of the left wading flap and of course it's closed. The large square stowage box on the turret is typical of Czech service, but not necessarily Czech manufacture. Polish-built tanks have a slightly different mantlet Edit- I had my mantlets backwards, it's Czech.

edit: I asked the guys on the T-54 & T-55 Research Facebook group for some help, I'll see what they say.


Actually, Marc from the Virgina Museum of Military Vehicles says he knows the tank well said to shoot him an email. It's a Hungarian T-55 rebuilt from T-54.
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Posted: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 - 10:22 AM UTC

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It might be Polish-built, the way to tell is the engine deck and there isn't one there to tell. Also the bracing on the inside of the left wading flap and of course it's closed. The large square stowage box on the turret is typical of Czech service, but not necessarily Czech manufacture. Polish-built tanks have a slightly different mantlet Edit- I had my mantlets backwards, it's Czech.

edit: I asked the guys on the T-54 & T-55 Research Facebook group for some help, I'll see what they say.


Actually, Marc from the Virgina Museum of Military Vehicles says he knows the tank well said to shoot him an email. It's a Hungarian T-55 rebuilt from T-54.



Thanks for the info. I will let the owner know.
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