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chip250
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Posted: Thursday, October 23, 2003 - 01:47 PM UTC
These are pics of my King Tiger Posche Turret that I started last year. I zimmed it along with my TIger 1. The Tiger Mid. Pro. is coming along. I actually work on that a little less now that I am nearly finished with this one. I think that once this is done I will be able to go full force on the Tiger 1. I work on both now that I have them going.

Let me know what you think!
~Chip

IT Isn't Finshed!




:-) :-)
SS-74
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Posted: Thursday, October 23, 2003 - 02:21 PM UTC
Looking quite good. Chip, a couple suggestions. I don't know if you can still do it, but would look better with the MG drilled out, and add a wire for the headlight. But over all looked good.
chip250
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Posted: Thursday, October 23, 2003 - 02:23 PM UTC
Dave that light wire, would stretched sprue work? Thats what I was going to use.

And that gun, I will see what I can do. No promises!

~Chip :-)
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Posted: Thursday, October 23, 2003 - 02:33 PM UTC
How did u get the lines on the tank i know what they r for but i was wondering if they came like that
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Posted: Thursday, October 23, 2003 - 02:37 PM UTC
looks good :-) Did you melt the zimmerit pattern in the plastic? Looks pretty tedious
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Posted: Thursday, October 23, 2003 - 02:40 PM UTC
Stretch Spure will be too thin. I use little wires I take out from sound systems. I don't know the exact thinkness though, but here is a pic to show ya, so ya can get a rough idea. This wire is still a bit thick, if you can find something that is 2/3 of its thickness then it should be perfect.

chip250
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Posted: Thursday, October 23, 2003 - 03:17 PM UTC
Thanks Dave, I in fact think I have some wire laying around in my junk drawer! Very cool suggestion, and you reminded me to do so! Thanks!

~Chip :-)
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Posted: Thursday, October 23, 2003 - 03:33 PM UTC
Very Nice Chip. Hey Uday wheres youre Zim Hmm???
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Posted: Thursday, October 23, 2003 - 05:05 PM UTC
Uday - you hilarious man

But stop being such a xxxxxx,

Andrew
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Posted: Thursday, October 23, 2003 - 05:07 PM UTC
Heya Chip,

good work bud. With the bosch headlight, from what I know they're screw on covers so they won't always be dead straight.

The wire I used was solid copper wire 5mm diam. that I purchased from a local electrical store and seems to look good as of now. Just drill a couple of small holes, a bit of CE and voila!

With a bit of weathering, I'm sure your tank will come up tops! I think the paint job looks great - Keep up the good work.

Cheers,

Cokes.
Hut
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Posted: Thursday, October 23, 2003 - 05:42 PM UTC
Hello Chip,

Nice job, I like the way you showed wear and tear on the zimm.
Just one question out of curiosity; this color scheme was it repainted in the field or was it factory applied? Because if it was factoy applied shouldn't the areas where the zimm fell of be base color?
And do you or anyone else happen to now whether factory applied schemes on a tiger II where always hard edge (which would of course anwer my other question as well).

Regards, Hut
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Posted: Thursday, October 23, 2003 - 05:48 PM UTC
Nice pattern and good coloring... I know you haven't weathered the tank yet, so Uday's concern about the brightness of the paint is a little premature... as is his comment about the damaged area of Zimmerit with no affect on the paint below . It is obvious that you were just trying to show the initial paint job, not a finished work... I say great look so far... would love to see it when it is done.

As for the wiring, I use a thin strip of rounded Plastruct styrene. I heat it in hot water to get the desired shape, and it is about the right thickness.

BTW - Uday's tank looks quite nice as well, but I would expect to see some dirt, oil, or rust unless this is a factory-fresh unit.... the air grills look a little too shiney and silver... just my two cents, but I also prefer the battle-worn look so it may just be a matter of taste.
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Posted: Thursday, October 23, 2003 - 08:40 PM UTC
Coming along nicely, as someone who (once or twice in the distant past) did Zim, I must say it looks good, nice and irregular.. Loking forward to seeing it finished. When does the OD topcoat go on? #:-) Jim
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Posted: Thursday, October 23, 2003 - 08:47 PM UTC
Hey Uday, don't take credit for other people's work that is very bad. Something like stealing. If you did those models you should have remembered whether you put Zimmerit on them or not. The general opinion is that you didn't put any on at all, therefore you must have taken the photos from somewhere else, which is a BAD thing to do. Can one of the moderators adjudicate in this? Jim
chip250
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Posted: Friday, October 24, 2003 - 12:37 AM UTC

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Did you melt the zimmerit pattern in the plastic?


Milliput and a pair of pliers. Just put the Milliput on, and then imprinted the pliers on.


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this color scheme was it repainted in the field or was it factory applied


Field applied of course. Thats why the right side roadwheels have green paint on them, and the left side ones don't. Simple answer for that to tell anyone. The crew ran out of paint!;)


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When does the OD topcoat go on? Jim


Hopefully never!, But I am thinking about having it drive past a knocked out Sherman. Does that count?

~Chip :-)
csch
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Posted: Friday, October 24, 2003 - 02:30 AM UTC
Hi Chip250:

I like the paint job and scheme very much. In my modest opinion I think that the zim doesn´t look very realistic. It looks like the metal plates are melted with the zim, and looking at pics of real german tanks w / zim, the zim looks like a coat applied over the metal plates. You can notice that very well in the damaged zones.

Good job.
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Posted: Friday, October 24, 2003 - 05:50 AM UTC
Howdy Chip: excellent paint job, that camo looks very nice and will look even better with a little weathering. Cudo's to you for doing the zim, I think it looks pretty good and about 20 times better than what I could do! So you rolled thin milliput onto surface then put on an imprint of pliers for the pattern? That is a cool idea. And personally i think the patchy spots where it is missing etc make it look better, as wear and tear and field repairs would probably give you a finish like that. Very nice Job!
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Posted: Friday, October 24, 2003 - 05:59 AM UTC
I'm no zimm or KT expert - but I do know what looks good. The AB work look nice and controlled.
Good job.
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Posted: Friday, October 24, 2003 - 06:14 AM UTC
looking good chip,
that camo and zimm came out nice,
you are a tank factory lol
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Posted: Friday, October 24, 2003 - 06:23 AM UTC
chip,
I think the Zim and camo look great! Nice job
keenan
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Posted: Friday, October 24, 2003 - 06:26 AM UTC
Wow Chip, I wasn't going to comment until you said you did the zim with pliers. That is really innovative. I like the way it turned out. I have the Cavlier set for my Tiger II but I may try the pliers thing on something. I usually hot knife mine in but yours looks good.

Shaun
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Posted: Friday, October 24, 2003 - 07:27 AM UTC

Quoted Text

Hi Chip250:

I like the paint job and scheme very much. In my modest opinion I think that the zim doesn´t look very realistic. It looks like the metal plates are melted with the zim, and looking at pics of real german tanks w / zim, the zim looks like a coat applied over the metal plates. You can notice that very well in the damaged zones.

Good job.



This is what I was trying to say about what I think the zim looks like:

I like your job very much.
chip250
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Posted: Friday, October 24, 2003 - 09:19 AM UTC
CSCH:

I know what your talking about with those plates. I agree, I should of masked them off. But who knows, maybe the tank commander gave the order to have it applied in the field to those plates , "just in case".

Other than that, it was my first time Zimmin! I am zimmin like a crimmin!

~Chip :-)

Thanks guys!
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Posted: Friday, October 24, 2003 - 10:39 AM UTC
Chip, Like I said I like to overall zim effect. I think what CSCH is trying to say is that before you weather the beast you need to paint the places where there is no zim primer color. Zimmerit was only factory applied. If the zim was damaged or blown away, the spots where there is no zim would be the color of the primer paint coat put on at the factory before the zim was applied, at the factory.

Hope this helps...

Shaun
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Posted: Friday, October 24, 2003 - 01:13 PM UTC
That is what I was trying to express. That way the thing doesn´t look like the zim and metal plates were melted. As Keenan said, zim was always factorie applied and was a coat over the metal.
Thanks Keenan for undertand what I was trying to say.
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