Hi Everybody;

I think this Vehicle will turn out to be Another Enigma as far as Russia goes, To be Honest can we even call it A MBT or should we start A New Classifacation of Fighting Vehicles, vehicles that have Over Head Weapons Systems ( OHWS ) have A New Class all themselves as they have more Remote Control capabilites and reduced Crews. It seems to look like it has started with the Black Eagle project from some of the videos that have been seen in the past, this type of Fighting Vehicle has been under development for some time and should not be A Surprise to anyon. Russia being A Global Arms Dealer has to keep up Modern Concepts and New Technology, IE;) the BMPT Terminator is A Logical vehicle to be seen on the Battle Field next to the Armata. IMHO I dont think we will see this type of Fighting Vehicle in the Near Future as it is to Expensive.

CHEERS; MIKE.

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Hi Everybody;

I think this Vehicle will turn out to be Another Enigma as far as Russia goes, To be Honest can we even call it A MBT or should we start A New Classifacation of Fighting Vehicles, vehicles that have Over Head Weapons Systems ( OHWS ) have A New Class all themselves as they have more Remote Control capabilites and reduced Crews. It seems to look like it has started with the Black Eagle project from some of the videos that have been seen in the past, this type of Fighting Vehicle has been under development for some time and should not be A Surprise to anyon. Russia being A Global Arms Dealer has to keep up Modern Concepts and New Technology, IE;) the BMPT Terminator is A Logical vehicle to be seen on the Battle Field next to the Armata. IMHO I dont think we will see this type of Fighting Vehicle in the Near Future as it is to Expensive.

CHEERS; MIKE.

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This "Black Eagle"... "T-95" or how it often was named in the rumors of internet actually was just a T-80. They put a cover on the turret at one demonstration ride, so it looked different and people on the internet started the fantasy.

I don't much innovation on the new Armata. For Russia it is new, of course. They have something to replace the very old T-72 based chasis, which is not up to date. Russian tanks in general are very small, not optimized for the crew and now they get more interior space..
Also not to forget, that they want to use the chasis for multiple roles: tanks, APC etc...talking as an engineer, i see a lot of compromises in the development to fullfill all roles.

As we talk about the remote controlled weapons: we do have it already for example on the german Puma, Boxter etc.

The Terminator: Tests showed, that this type is not very effective, so russian army didn't want them.

All in one we must rethink: nice to have a new chassis, but untill they are in service it would take many many years, considering the economics in Russia. They have built just a few, to show at the parade, and what we saw on the picture, looks like it's unfinished business.

this must be a prototype lol

This "Black Eagle"... "T-95" or how it often was named in the rumors of internet actually was just a T-80. They put a cover on the turret at one demonstration ride, so it looked different and people on the internet started the fantasy.

I don't much innovation on the new Armata. For Russia it is new, of course.

So, here is the Armata. Most of the rumors are obsolete. Nothing that moves the world, no AA or what ever stations. Classical and conventional tank design

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So, here is the Armata. Most of the rumors are obsolete. Nothing that moves the world, no AA or what ever stations. Classical and conventional tank design

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Uninhabited tower. Really very conservative!

I agree this is starting to look less and less revolutionary as we see more. In fact unless it has a two man crew, I don't see much that's even a new idea. Modular armor, been done. Remote gun, been done. Auto loader, check. Active protection, check. Battlefield radar, check.

I have a question about the whole "common platform" concept. If the T-14 (tank) is rear engine and rear sprocket drive, and the T-15 (APC) is front engine and front sproket, how much can they have in common?

Add to all this a cost higher than T-90, which Russian generals didn't want because of its cost vs what it delivered, I think these may be the only Armatas we ever see.

They want to buy 2300 of them ? Well am I glad I dont live there and dont have to pay for that with my taxes. They should repair schools and hospitals instead. Some folks never change.