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Posted: Thursday, February 25, 2016 - 09:45 PM UTC

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What about the Czar tank?






Wondering what scale that model is?
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Posted: Thursday, February 25, 2016 - 09:50 PM UTC


How to take a good but, arguably, already ugly duckling and make it uglier,

Wouldn't want to be the loader.

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Posted: Thursday, February 25, 2016 - 10:10 PM UTC
It's the Armata for me...



Cheers,

Christophe
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Posted: Thursday, February 25, 2016 - 10:54 PM UTC

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What about the Czar tank?





That thing has be on the craziest idea ever. Up there with the Ratte and Monster machines, except this thing was actually built and tested "somewhat". I would love to build one in 1/35th someday, but I'm afraid it would have to be a scratch build.
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Posted: Thursday, February 25, 2016 - 11:36 PM UTC
Skeleton Tank

http://www.peachmountain.com/5star/tanks_US_Skeleton_tank.aspx
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Posted: Thursday, February 25, 2016 - 11:44 PM UTC
LOL! I like this as a campaign idea. I've always thought M60A2s were so ugly.

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Posted: Friday, February 26, 2016 - 12:05 AM UTC

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It's the Armata for me...



Cheers,

Christophe


It's the turret that does it for me. The hull looks ok, but the turret looks like something slapped together by the stage crew of a local high school for some play
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Posted: Friday, February 26, 2016 - 12:47 AM UTC

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It's the Armata for me...



Cheers,

Christophe


It's the turret that does it for me. The hull looks ok, but the turret looks like something slapped together by the stage crew of a local high school for some play


Da, the stage propski team of the Moscow Drama Polytechnica!
100 bucks worth of sheet metal tacked onto a T-80 turret, and look at all those shot traps!
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Posted: Friday, February 26, 2016 - 12:59 AM UTC
The American TV-8
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Posted: Friday, February 26, 2016 - 01:14 AM UTC

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What about the Czar tank?






Wondering what scale that model is?



Probably 1/72:

https://www.scalemates.com/kits/647854-kora-models-koraa7226-lebedenko-tsar-tank

http://wpk-plastickits.eu/en-detail-901923647-tsar-tank-lebedenko.html

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Posted: Friday, February 26, 2016 - 01:17 AM UTC

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How to take a good but, arguably, already ugly duckling and make it uglier,

Wouldn't want to be the loader.

G



I'm very sure that's some bad photoshop by one of the WOT players.
Removed by original poster on 02/26/16 - 23:48:32 (GMT).
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Posted: Friday, February 26, 2016 - 04:53 AM UTC
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Posted: Friday, February 26, 2016 - 05:01 AM UTC

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How to take a good but, arguably, already ugly duckling and make it uglier,

Wouldn't want to be the loader.

G



I'm very sure that's some bad photoshop by one of the WOT players.



Yes, I believe this one's photoshopped. And yes the the first thing that came to my mind upon reading this thread was the Lee / Grant -- just could't understand what made them go for such design.
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Posted: Friday, February 26, 2016 - 06:13 AM UTC

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How to take a good but, arguably, already ugly duckling and make it uglier,

Wouldn't want to be the loader.

G



I'm very sure that's some bad photoshop by one of the WOT players.





Yes, I believe this one's photoshopped. And yes the the first thing that came to my mind upon reading this thread was the Lee / Grant -- just could't understand what made them go for such design.



IIRC it was due to the war coming as a surprise to the USA meaning they lacked the means (welded armour, a cast turret that could house a 75mm, a clear purpose for the tank) to create a good conventional medium tank in a pinch. It was at least better than the M2 the U.S had in 1941 which was basically a tracked box full of M1919s with a Stuart turret on top.

(I still love both tanks though)
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Posted: Friday, February 26, 2016 - 06:50 AM UTC


This unhansom devil, the M50 Ontos, has the power to trigger my gag reflex everytime.

What's the plan here? Will we have a group build requiring each of us to construct our candidate vehicle? LOL
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Posted: Friday, February 26, 2016 - 07:55 AM UTC
What about the Hamas Super Tank?

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Posted: Friday, February 26, 2016 - 08:03 AM UTC

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What about the Hamas Super Tank?




Still better looking than any Churchill variant.

Heck, better than Mr. Churchill himself.

Gaz
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Posted: Friday, February 26, 2016 - 10:49 AM UTC


What is it? The tracks look like from a Char B

A campaign sounds cool -- Frankentanks maybe? But what would be the regs? -- the "ugliness" seems to be a subjective matter....
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Posted: Friday, February 26, 2016 - 10:59 AM UTC

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What is it? The tracks look like from a Char B



ARL-44. The French built 60 in the late 1940s.
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Posted: Friday, February 26, 2016 - 01:24 PM UTC

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What is it? The tracks look like from a Char B



ARL-44. The French built 60 in the late 1940s.



As far as I know there's never been a kit in any scale... That says something. With a Char B as the basis possibly not too hard a scratchbuild, although I think it's got quite complicated engine deck venting, the rest of it is flat plates.
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Posted: Friday, February 26, 2016 - 02:45 PM UTC
Hi

For me it has to be the TOG. What a complete waste of metal. One survives at Bovington. Thank goodness the people behind this never had the influence to put it into production with so many better tanks already being used or in development. Hard to imagine in British tank development the Centurion was only a couple of years away from appearing when you see what these other designers had come up with ...

Not only is it ugly looking, but it's "ugly and wrong" in it's concept. Wrong on many levels.



Here is renowned tank expert David Fletcher describing the pile of .....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU0o29llhkI
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Posted: Friday, February 26, 2016 - 03:41 PM UTC

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What is it? The tracks look like from a Char B



ARL-44. The French built 60 in the late 1940s.



As far as I know there's never been a kit in any scale... That says something. With a Char B as the basis possibly not too hard a scratchbuild, although I think it's got quite complicated engine deck venting, the rest of it is flat plates.



It's like a cross between a Char B and a Panther
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Posted: Friday, February 26, 2016 - 04:19 PM UTC
Another American nominee (1917)...





H.P.

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Posted: Friday, February 26, 2016 - 05:11 PM UTC
Is it trying to bury itself to hide the shame? :-)