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Posted: Wednesday, July 06, 2016 - 07:04 PM UTC
Under the circumstances of the posting by DocEvans I thought I would throw in this great looking classic 1937 Chevy with a Holmes wrecker tower just for grins.
Photos: Mike Koenig - 2014 Farm Machinery Show; Nicholasville, KY.
Photos: Mike Koenig - 2014 Farm Machinery Show; Nicholasville, KY.
165thspc
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Posted: Wednesday, July 06, 2016 - 08:51 PM UTC
Quick question for the auto guys:
Does anyone know of a source for castings of this classic style car/truck horns?
Problem is I need them in 1/35th (OR 1/32nd) scale for my Diamond T wrecker and dump trucks.
Mike
Mike Koenig photo - 2015 Keeneland Concours d'Elegance, Lexington, KY. - 1948 Diamond T Pickup
Does anyone know of a source for castings of this classic style car/truck horns?
Problem is I need them in 1/35th (OR 1/32nd) scale for my Diamond T wrecker and dump trucks.
Mike
Mike Koenig photo - 2015 Keeneland Concours d'Elegance, Lexington, KY. - 1948 Diamond T Pickup
165thspc
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Posted: Thursday, July 07, 2016 - 03:29 AM UTC
German Sd. Ah. 115 pre-war trailer - full scratch build by Monte Kelch:
165thspc
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Posted: Thursday, July 07, 2016 - 04:13 PM UTC
Something a little different: a CCKW being prepared for overseas shipment.
Gotta crate up that windshield.
Gotta crate up that windshield.
165thspc
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Posted: Thursday, July 07, 2016 - 04:20 PM UTC
Future project:
In the beginning I felt the biggest challenge would be making those ornate hose reels.
Problem solved! _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ On right: Front mounted Darley Champion water pump - driven off engine main pulley.
p.s. This vehicle IS available in 1/48th scale as a resin kit.)
Color Photos by Mike Koenig
In the beginning I felt the biggest challenge would be making those ornate hose reels.
Problem solved! _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ On right: Front mounted Darley Champion water pump - driven off engine main pulley.
p.s. This vehicle IS available in 1/48th scale as a resin kit.)
Color Photos by Mike Koenig
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Posted: Thursday, July 07, 2016 - 05:33 PM UTC
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Future project:
In the beginning I felt the biggest problem would be making the hose reels.
Hi, Mike!
Well, you've CERTAINLY aroused A LOT OF INTEREST!
Sorry that I can't post any of my stuff that I've converted/kit-bashed/scratch-built- No digital camera or smart phone...
m4sherman
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Posted: Thursday, July 07, 2016 - 05:55 PM UTC
Your KD (knocked down) CCKW looks good. You are going to add a couple lug nuts to the rear wheels?
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Posted: Thursday, July 07, 2016 - 05:58 PM UTC
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Your KD (knocked down) CCKW looks good. You are going to add a couple lug nuts to the rear wheels?
I MIGHT, I don't know . . . . model is not finished - considering taking all the wheels off and putting truck on a pallet. I probably have enough spare Tamiya brake drums to do all three axles.
Hated using up all those spares that I had in my CCKW parts box.
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Posted: Thursday, July 07, 2016 - 07:21 PM UTC
NOW HEAR THIS . . . . NOW HEAR THIS!
Check out the amazing nearly all scratch built 1/16 scale Skoda RSO by Norman Uschkureit, over on the "Scratch Built" forum:
http://armorama.com/forums/223170&ord=&page=1
Check out the amazing nearly all scratch built 1/16 scale Skoda RSO by Norman Uschkureit, over on the "Scratch Built" forum:
http://armorama.com/forums/223170&ord=&page=1
m4sherman
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Posted: Thursday, July 07, 2016 - 07:44 PM UTC
I once had a short wheel base 1940 GMC civilian truck. It had the same axles as the wrecker posted. When you removed all the lug nuts on the rear wheels the inner wheel would slide off as you took off or put on the outer wheel. I ended up using a chock block to hold it.
barkingdigger
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Posted: Thursday, July 07, 2016 - 07:56 PM UTC
Hi Mike,
Those "turtle" horns are nifty - I'd be happy to CAD them up for you to 3D-print via Shapeways, but they'll be mighty small in 1:35.
On the CAD front, I quite fancy doing a fire truck myself, and would love to get some basic dimensions on that pump unit so I can draw one up for printing. Any chance you could shoot me some full-sized measurements? If I draw it I'll make it public so you and the gang can print them too.
Tom
Those "turtle" horns are nifty - I'd be happy to CAD them up for you to 3D-print via Shapeways, but they'll be mighty small in 1:35.
On the CAD front, I quite fancy doing a fire truck myself, and would love to get some basic dimensions on that pump unit so I can draw one up for printing. Any chance you could shoot me some full-sized measurements? If I draw it I'll make it public so you and the gang can print them too.
Tom
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Posted: Thursday, July 07, 2016 - 07:58 PM UTC
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I once had a short wheel base 1940 GMC civilian truck. It had the same axles as the wrecker posted. When you removed all the lug nuts on the rear wheels the inner wheel would slide off as you took off or put on the outer wheel. I ended up using a chock block to hold it.
The two wheel faces almost always rust just enough to stick together. I usually end up hitting them with a small 4 pound maul hammer. They ring like a bell and the vibration breaks them apart. I also have had single truck wheels that rust to the brake drum and you have to do the same thing to get them off the vehicle.
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Posted: Thursday, July 07, 2016 - 08:05 PM UTC
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Hi Mike,
Those "turtle" horns are nifty - I'd be happy to CAD them up for you to 3D-print via Shapeways, but they'll be mighty small in 1:35.
Tom
I do realize those stubby trumpets would have to be made overly thick in 1/35th but I would take whatever you can give me. The only dimensional help size wize, that I can give you is that the Diamond T horns were some of the largest "turtle horns" I had ever seen at just a shade under 6 inches in diameter.
I would be happy to be your first customer for these items.
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Posted: Thursday, July 07, 2016 - 08:16 PM UTC
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Hi Mike,
On the CAD front, I quite fancy doing a fire truck myself, and would love to get some basic dimensions on that pump unit so I can draw one up for printing. Any chance you could shoot me some full-sized measurements? If I draw it I'll make it public so you and the gang can print them too.
Tom
I am afraid I take more the artist's approach to dimensions rather than the engineer's. The distance between the truck frame members is a known value so I figured I would just get my rough measurements from that and everything else would be done by eye. (Of course I only had in mind to build ONE pump. I never considered the idea of casting a master or digital printing to make multiple copies.)
I have a fair number of photos I can offer you of the pump!
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Posted: Thursday, July 07, 2016 - 08:50 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Quoted TextHi Mike,
On the CAD front, I quite fancy doing a fire truck myself, and would love to get some basic dimensions on that pump unit so I can draw one up for printing. Any chance you could shoot me some full-sized measurements? If I draw it I'll make it public so you and the gang can print them too.
Tom
I am afraid I take more the artist's approach to dimensions rather than the engineer's. The distance between the truck frame members is a known value so I figured I would just get my rough measurements from that and everything else would be done by eye. (Of course I only had in mind to build ONE pump. I never considered the idea of casting a master or digital printing to make multiple copies.)
I have a fair number of photos I can offer you of the pump!
I have a request into Darley right now as to availability of dimensional drawings on these old pumps. If we were talking one of their current day pumps I could have already provided you with a PDF file.
barkingdigger
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Posted: Thursday, July 07, 2016 - 08:52 PM UTC
That 6" diameter is enough to go by! I'll look at them this weekend.
As for the pump, any pics I can get are useful! (What is the hose attachment diameter? Is that standard? 3", 2.75" etc?) I grabbed all the pics of it in this thread, but more angles are definitely better. You could upload them to a file-share and send me the link to download - I'll PM you my email.
As for the pump, any pics I can get are useful! (What is the hose attachment diameter? Is that standard? 3", 2.75" etc?) I grabbed all the pics of it in this thread, but more angles are definitely better. You could upload them to a file-share and send me the link to download - I'll PM you my email.
m4sherman
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Posted: Thursday, July 07, 2016 - 09:33 PM UTC
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Quoted TextI once had a short wheel base 1940 GMC civilian truck. It had the same axles as the wrecker posted. When you removed all the lug nuts on the rear wheels the inner wheel would slide off as you took off or put on the outer wheel. I ended up using a chock block to hold it.
The two wheel faces almost always rust just enough to stick together. I usually end up hitting them with a small 4 pound maul hammer. They ring like a bell and the vibration breaks them apart. I also have had single truck wheels that rust to the brake drum and you have to do the same thing to get them off the vehicle.
Never had that problem after I had the wheels sandblasted and repainted. I did have to get the front left brake drum pressed out of the wheel. It took about 9 tons, and the face was bent in an inch before it came out. Thinking back on it reminds me of that show 1000 ways to die. I never went back to that machine shop.
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Posted: Thursday, July 07, 2016 - 09:53 PM UTC
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Quick question for the auto guys:
Does anyone know of a source for castings of this classic style car/truck horns?
Problem is I need them in 1/35th (OR 1/32nd) scale for my Diamond T wrecker and dump trucks.
T
Mike
Mike Koenig photo - 2015 Keeneland Concours d'Elegance, Lexington, KY. - 1948 Diamond T Pickup
Mike
In 1/35 would you not be able to shape a sprue offcut to act as a press former using aluminium discs ?
Just a thought !
Nige
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Posted: Thursday, July 07, 2016 - 10:17 PM UTC
Nige
I would not think that would work? Yes the top dome is a simple M&M shape but the tri-form trumpet itself is highly complex and the underside of the M&M is a deeply embossed raised spiral.
I cannot envision making the horn any other way but digitally. However your work certainly trumps mine so you might be seeing something that I am not.
Mike
I would not think that would work? Yes the top dome is a simple M&M shape but the tri-form trumpet itself is highly complex and the underside of the M&M is a deeply embossed raised spiral.
I cannot envision making the horn any other way but digitally. However your work certainly trumps mine so you might be seeing something that I am not.
Mike
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Posted: Thursday, July 07, 2016 - 11:00 PM UTC
Oh, I forgot to mention; if anyone would like other choices in Firetrucks?
Chevy 1 1/2 ton, 2 axle: (Can be chopped down from the CCKW chassis in 1/35 & 1/48.)
Mike Koenig Photo
Ford 2 axle: (The truck chassis is available in 1/35.)
CCKW, 3 axle: (The truck chassis is available in 1/35, & 1/48.)
White 666, 6 ton, 3 axle: (The truck chassis is available in 1/35.)
HEMTT, 4 axle: (Available in 1/35 as a resin conversion.)
Chris Allen Photo
Chevy 1 1/2 ton, 2 axle: (Can be chopped down from the CCKW chassis in 1/35 & 1/48.)
Mike Koenig Photo
Ford 2 axle: (The truck chassis is available in 1/35.)
CCKW, 3 axle: (The truck chassis is available in 1/35, & 1/48.)
White 666, 6 ton, 3 axle: (The truck chassis is available in 1/35.)
HEMTT, 4 axle: (Available in 1/35 as a resin conversion.)
Chris Allen Photo
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Posted: Friday, July 08, 2016 - 01:42 AM UTC
BACK ON TOPIC:
M-199 2-axle trailer dolly. Post war solution for allowing other heavy prime movers to tow the Dragon Wagon trailer. (The trailer had an over sized tow pin.)
Built from parts left over from a salvaged M26 Dragon Wagon tractor.
(Photo from the Doyle "Catalog of US Military Equipment".)
The only modern day photo I have ever found of the M199.
M-199 2-axle trailer dolly. Post war solution for allowing other heavy prime movers to tow the Dragon Wagon trailer. (The trailer had an over sized tow pin.)
Built from parts left over from a salvaged M26 Dragon Wagon tractor.
(Photo from the Doyle "Catalog of US Military Equipment".)
The only modern day photo I have ever found of the M199.
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Posted: Friday, July 08, 2016 - 03:33 AM UTC
Been a long while since I've posted on this forum so lets see if I remember how to....
Not sure if this belongs here or not, feel free to move it on if not....
Recently finished my Morris 6x4 BeauteLieferwagon with IG18 Howitzer
Based off an Airfix 1/76 Bofors tractor and Zvezda 1/72 IG howitzer
The source of inspiration....
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ATB
Sean
Not sure if this belongs here or not, feel free to move it on if not....
Recently finished my Morris 6x4 BeauteLieferwagon with IG18 Howitzer
Based off an Airfix 1/76 Bofors tractor and Zvezda 1/72 IG howitzer
The source of inspiration....
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Sean
165thspc
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Posted: Friday, July 08, 2016 - 05:54 AM UTC
Sean
You are definitely in the right place! Greetings
Mike
You are definitely in the right place! Greetings
Mike
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Posted: Friday, July 08, 2016 - 07:23 AM UTC
We like!!
For the horns you're trying to replicate for the DT trucks, i would find a cone shape, hollow it out and then attached it to a domed shape (which one can make from a bit of styrene rod.
For the horns you're trying to replicate for the DT trucks, i would find a cone shape, hollow it out and then attached it to a domed shape (which one can make from a bit of styrene rod.
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Under the circumstances of the posting by DocEvans I thought I would throw in this great looking classic 1937 Chevy with a Holmes wrecker tower just for grins.
Photos: Mike Koenig - 2014 Farm Machinery Show; Nicholasville, KY.
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