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New Campaign Proposal - Op Canuck Steel
ex-royal
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Posted: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 - 12:22 PM UTC
I just enlisted Sign up lHERE

Here are the Medal and the ribbon, Paul if you could save these to your hard drive that would be great.
Cheers,
Bryan
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Posted: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 - 03:31 PM UTC
Done! I love it when a plan comes together! We need everyone to enlist in the Campaign docket ASAP.
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Posted: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 - 06:19 AM UTC
Well I just signed up ...Looks like there should be some excellent models built by the first of July...It looks like some of the best modellers out there will be building Canadian for a while..Now I better go figure out what to build!! Let's all have fun with this one !

Rick
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Posted: Friday, January 07, 2005 - 05:22 AM UTC
Alright. I'm in.

Err... Do I actually have to finish it?

Cheers!

Dana
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Posted: Friday, January 07, 2005 - 05:29 AM UTC
I think I'll break out the DML Firefly Ic Hybrid for this build. I already stole the 75mm turret from the kit.
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Posted: Friday, January 07, 2005 - 11:30 AM UTC

Quoted Text

Alright. I'm in.

Err... Do I actually have to finish it?

Cheers!

Dana



Uh, letme think... yupper!
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Posted: Friday, January 07, 2005 - 01:55 PM UTC
I am in ... I will do a firefly, The Ontario Regiment in ITaly.

HastyP
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Posted: Monday, January 10, 2005 - 07:22 AM UTC
OK troops, we are approved. Time to start cutting plastic!
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Posted: Monday, January 10, 2005 - 09:06 AM UTC
OK looks like the campaign has been officially approved and ready to rock and roll. I am also going to officially verify my Sherman Ic Hybrid as my entry
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Posted: Monday, January 10, 2005 - 12:52 PM UTC
Howdy fellas of the 'Great White North'......ehh?

Congrat's on getting this one approved.....good on ya!

Just a silly query from a 'Canuck' -challenged modeler.....

First, isn't the 'Grizzly' a six-wheeled Canadian version of the standard eight-wheeled U.S. LAV??.........or am I just having another synapse misfiring outbreak?

If not......then just queitly ignore my ramblings......if Yes.....then I have a follow-up question.

How hard would it be to remove the '2nd' wheel from the Revell LAV kit and build up a 'Grizzly'?

Tread.

Man......I hope my short-term memory loss 'thing' isn't kickin' in here........that would be embarassing.
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Posted: Monday, January 10, 2005 - 01:01 PM UTC
Grizzly is the Canadian version of the M4A1 I believe.
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Posted: Monday, January 10, 2005 - 01:15 PM UTC
Hi Guys,
Well in a way you are both correct. Tread the Grizzly you refer to is a similar vehicle to the 8 wheel LAV, it actually is a direct descendant of the Mowag Piranah. There are dimensional and fundamental differences I believe between the Lav and the grizz. . Also the Grizzly uses a Cadilac Guage Turret with a .50 and GPMG mounted side by side. Im sure Paul can jump in if I missed or cocked up anything. But from what I can remember its not a very straight forward conversion but not impossible.
Shermie you are also correct in that the first Grizzly was in fact the Canadian Produced M4A1 early Manufactured at the Montreal Locomotive works.. We like to name our vehicles after animals and like our football teams we tend to use the same name over and over again :-) :-)
HTH
Bryan
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Posted: Monday, January 10, 2005 - 02:05 PM UTC
Hi gang, I'm excited about this one. I think I will try my hand at a...ummmm...Sherman.
I look forward to seeing everyones progress.
regards, Rick.
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Posted: Monday, January 10, 2005 - 02:13 PM UTC
Welcome to the site, Rick. It looks like you joined at the best time yet to be a Canadian on this site! We're all excited about this build, with 30 enlisted and rising. Good to have you on.
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Posted: Monday, January 10, 2005 - 02:28 PM UTC
Is is the Cougar that has 6 wheels and a Scorpion turret?

Paul

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Posted: Monday, January 10, 2005 - 02:44 PM UTC
Hey Guys,
Here's a few pics of our Lav Type Vehicles

Grizzly


Cougar


Husky


Grizzly CP


Bison


Coyote


Lav III


Lav TUA


You can see all of our vehicle , weapons and equipment here
http://www.sfu.ca/casr/101.htm
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Posted: Monday, January 10, 2005 - 03:52 PM UTC
Howdy again fellas,

ex-royal said: "...it actually is a direct descendant of the Mowag Piranah. ..."

Now, I thought the Mowag was the LAV III design, or the same bodystyle that the U.S.now calls the 'Stryker'?

I've got the Revell kit #03054 LAV-25 (MC) "Piranha" and the body looks almost identical (including the turret) to the top photo of the "Grizzly", with the one major exception being the extra 'eight' wheel.........help me out here........

Tread.
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Posted: Monday, January 10, 2005 - 03:53 PM UTC
Bryan,
thanks for posting the pics. Now will somebody please produce a plastic Stryker kit so I can do the last two!
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Posted: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 03:20 AM UTC
Tread,
From what I understand about Mowag hulls, all of our LAV designs are based on it. The AVGP family (Grizzly, Cougar, Husky and Grizzly CP) are of the same body. They differ from the Coyote/ Bison hull by length, slope of glacis, width and general layout. I've driven the above vehicles, as well, and they even drive differently. The Coyote is externally similar to, if not the same as, the Lav-25 Pirhana but is 20 years more modern, and is a reconnaisance vehicle with much different equipment. And the LAV III is different than all of them and is the father of the Stryker. After we tested the initial production run, we received notice from GM Canada that the USA was buying the design.
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Posted: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 11:46 AM UTC
Howdy,

Thx for the replies fellas. I'm not talking about the LAV III or the Stryker bodystyle. I'm talking about the regular LAV 25 body.

Maybe it's my failing in remembering the proper moniker for the Canadian vehicle, I thought it was the Grizzly, but maybe it's the Cougar........just a sec, and I'll check my 'Blue Helmet' references.........apparently it's indeed partially my fault. The picture reference I have is of a UN deployed Canadian Cougar vehicle operating under UNPROFOR's in Bosnia, Summer of 1994.
{ Squadron Signal publication #4018. "The Blue Helmets Under Fire", Page # 70. }
Is that the same as a Grizzly?

Anyway...I was just trying to get to the bottom of the potential of utilizing the Revell LAV kit as a basekit for a Canadian-based AFV. Hopefully using the regular 8-wheeled LAV kit and performing a few 'adjustments' can indeed render a Canadian Cougar / Grizzly.....?...?

tia.

Tread.
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Posted: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 11:49 AM UTC
Tread what's the difference? Your mom will be too afraid to pack it to send to you so we won't see any pics anyway
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Posted: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 11:52 AM UTC



......................lmao...... :-) :-) :-)

Have I had the chance to tell you how much I appreciate the fact that you have absolutely NO sense of humour lately Alan???.......


:-) :-) .......ahhhhhhhhh, where else can you find friends like this that you can call 'buggers' in the same breath!.........

Tread.
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Posted: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 11:55 AM UTC
Same Family of vehicles but not the same role. The Grizzly is an APC and the Cougar is a Direct FIre support vehicle. But as I said earlier they are direct descendants of the Swiss Mowag Pirahnna. You can see the difference in the bodies as well. An answer to your question is no i'm afraid. There are more differences than just the additional wheel. The body of the 8 wheel and the 6 wheel is different. It can be done with alot of work. I believe JP Morgan has an article on Missing Links that might be able to help you. That said I am by no means an expert here.
Cheers,
Bryan
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Posted: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 12:27 PM UTC


Many, many thx Bryan for your valued input on the subject.......now, ya got a link to that ML article?


Tread.

Of course......you should probably ignore me, since I'm just 'sniffin' around about this.......besides,.....Alan is watching.
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Posted: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 12:43 PM UTC
LOL Tread!! At least we're not building the same thing at the same time anymore!!