In-progress on my Heavy Haulers #1....
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Master Productions Chevy tractor and trailer comb. As basicly out of the box as a 100% resin kit can get. So far a rather surprising well fitting kit, with really no really bad warpage.
I like my OD and beige como so far......
:-) :-) :-) actually, I really do paint and assembly differently than a lot of others.... the doors still need triming to fit.... the wheels are held on with blue tac..... BUT I do prefer the painting as I go along...... for most of my building. Prefering to pull everything together at the end with final dustings and weathering.
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Grumpy's Heavy Haulers #1
Grumpyoldman
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Posted: Friday, February 18, 2005 - 05:17 AM UTC
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Posted: Friday, February 18, 2005 - 07:43 AM UTC
Dave...Looking good so far !! I don't know how you do it to paint as you go but more power to you ... ...Does this kit come complete or do you have to buy the cab and trailler individually . How is the build ? I know resin kits can be a pain where the sun never shines. Keep up the good work and keep them pictures coming.
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Posted: Friday, February 18, 2005 - 08:05 AM UTC
Very cool Dave. I really like this vehicle. Is there an engine in this one?
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Posted: Friday, February 18, 2005 - 09:02 AM UTC
Tractor and trailer are separate kits.....
This is the famous kit I forced poor old Pvt Parts at gun point to walk 5 miles bare footed up hill, over broken glass,in the snow, to the cash machine at the last AmpsEast show..... so I could could buy it..... :-) :-) :-)
Kit really is the best resin kit I ever bought (I got the set for $125) which is a lot less than retail. Parts fit was pretty good, only used a little filler around the hood (bonnet for Cliff) panels. Had no broken or missing parts, and only the trailer stakes need any straightening due to warpage. This was easy to take care of at work, I just laid them on a controller that get warm, and placed a board over them, about ten minutes later... perfectly straight.
There is a very slight twist to the chassis, that I just noticed, but I'm not concerned about it. Wish I would have noticed it eaier, I could have straightened it like the stakes at work.
Paul, No it has no engine details.... just the sump.
As for my painting style.... it really is nothing strange.... I just do a lot of dust coats, which eventually build up to a soild color..... each dusting actually acts as my primer as I go along. My airbrushes are always set up, and it only takes me a few minutes to clean them.
This is the famous kit I forced poor old Pvt Parts at gun point to walk 5 miles bare footed up hill, over broken glass,in the snow, to the cash machine at the last AmpsEast show..... so I could could buy it..... :-) :-) :-)
Kit really is the best resin kit I ever bought (I got the set for $125) which is a lot less than retail. Parts fit was pretty good, only used a little filler around the hood (bonnet for Cliff) panels. Had no broken or missing parts, and only the trailer stakes need any straightening due to warpage. This was easy to take care of at work, I just laid them on a controller that get warm, and placed a board over them, about ten minutes later... perfectly straight.
There is a very slight twist to the chassis, that I just noticed, but I'm not concerned about it. Wish I would have noticed it eaier, I could have straightened it like the stakes at work.
Paul, No it has no engine details.... just the sump.
As for my painting style.... it really is nothing strange.... I just do a lot of dust coats, which eventually build up to a soild color..... each dusting actually acts as my primer as I go along. My airbrushes are always set up, and it only takes me a few minutes to clean them.
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Posted: Friday, February 18, 2005 - 09:07 AM UTC
Very Nice Dave. I have this very kit collecting dust, It's nice to see one go together so nicely! ARe you going to add data plates to teh dash? Fingerprint designs makes a nice set.
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Posted: Friday, February 18, 2005 - 09:21 AM UTC
I'll go thru the spare decals and see what I can come up with....
if I come up with none, then plain old shapes cut from black decals do fine for me.
if I come up with none, then plain old shapes cut from black decals do fine for me.
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Posted: Friday, February 18, 2005 - 09:52 AM UTC
Dave, wow...what a great looking truck. I like your idea of "dusting" the layers of paint on, i'll have to give that a try instead of solid passes of color. The resin kit has fallen together perfectly in your hands.
It's just amazing the work you can do locked up all day in the boiler room...hehehe
If you have trouble finding decals, i'll be glad to send some to you.
kevin
It's just amazing the work you can do locked up all day in the boiler room...hehehe
If you have trouble finding decals, i'll be glad to send some to you.
kevin
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Posted: Friday, February 18, 2005 - 10:27 AM UTC
Dave..super job so far...was worth..and let me clarify this...the 9 mile walk up hill, barefoot , in the HEAT carrying you no my back, to the mac..walk! Keep up the good work!
edit: by the way..you dropped the gun a little into the 5th mile~
edit: by the way..you dropped the gun a little into the 5th mile~
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Posted: Friday, February 18, 2005 - 11:16 AM UTC
^^^ This is the kind of post I should delete (above this one) ^^^
But, I will refrain and use it as an example of what should not be posted in the RRB.
Dave, I now know why you took that 21 mile hike in the ice and snow and glass on the 46 degree incline barefooted to get to the ATM. Well worth it it terms of subject matter, not to mention the job done so far.
What paints and colors are you using? Don't know if it's the lighting, but the trailer looks to be a different color from the cab. Intentional? Whatever is the case I like it.
But, I will refrain and use it as an example of what should not be posted in the RRB.
Dave, I now know why you took that 21 mile hike in the ice and snow and glass on the 46 degree incline barefooted to get to the ATM. Well worth it it terms of subject matter, not to mention the job done so far.
What paints and colors are you using? Don't know if it's the lighting, but the trailer looks to be a different color from the cab. Intentional? Whatever is the case I like it.
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Posted: Friday, February 18, 2005 - 01:14 PM UTC
Well... a lot might be due to the lighting, My hi-tech clear plastic tub paint booth doesn't have an attached light, and I put the window fan in to exhust the room. (Fun in the winter) I used good old Model Masters OD. As the painting is done is light dust coats, and I really never count how many, it's possible the interior received a cost of two less of OD or a coat or two more. But it also had a pin wash, and a slight dry-brushing. The seat is simply my own mixture of colors (forget what ones) with a little dry brushing. The gauges were simply given a few washes of black, building up the color density and the white applied with a sharpened toothpick, and the glass is "Wet and Wild".... clear nail polish applyed with another toothpick.
The trailer has already recieived it's first over all wash.. Maybe the reason it looks a little darker.....
The drums were all painted at the same time, with different number of dustings, and color lighening or darkenings. (I never use white or black to lighten or darken OD, and about 98% of any other colors.) Tans, Flesh, or yellows to lighten, and what ever I grab is fine with me, and browns and greens to darken... or actually to change the tone or value. But I do try not to make drastic changes.. Just my preference.
Pvt Parts... I dropped the gun???? And you still carried on..... NOW that's what I call being a friend......... :-) :-) :-) :-)
The trailer has already recieived it's first over all wash.. Maybe the reason it looks a little darker.....
The drums were all painted at the same time, with different number of dustings, and color lighening or darkenings. (I never use white or black to lighten or darken OD, and about 98% of any other colors.) Tans, Flesh, or yellows to lighten, and what ever I grab is fine with me, and browns and greens to darken... or actually to change the tone or value. But I do try not to make drastic changes.. Just my preference.
Pvt Parts... I dropped the gun???? And you still carried on..... NOW that's what I call being a friend......... :-) :-) :-) :-)
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Posted: Friday, February 18, 2005 - 01:15 PM UTC
Dave, This is very cool. I agree with Ken on the paint job it is good to see a slight variation in the Cab and trailer colours. Do you use pastels for weathering?
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Posted: Friday, February 18, 2005 - 01:28 PM UTC
Andy... I haven't even finished painting it completely yet, so no, there are no pastels on it yet.
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Posted: Friday, February 18, 2005 - 03:41 PM UTC
Dave, who is the manufatcurer of the truck kit? I'm interested in doing one as a horse hauler for the Cav. We have the last remaining one here at the 3 ACR museum. Same tractor, just a different trailer. Thanks. "Q"
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Posted: Friday, February 18, 2005 - 04:04 PM UTC
Matthew, Dave mentioned it was the Masters Productions kit in the opening post.
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Posted: Friday, February 18, 2005 - 04:25 PM UTC
Really nice example. I am glad that you are showing and explaining things about the kit. Do the jack legs drop down , or are they fixed in the up position? Do you plan to add electrical lines to the trailer from the tractor? This is going to be a very nice addition to the Campaign.
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Posted: Saturday, February 19, 2005 - 01:16 AM UTC
I do plan to add the line between the cab and trailer. I'm not a tractor trailer expert.... never owned or drove one either. The kit appears to have a single recepitical on the cab, and a single receptical on the trailer. So I would guess it is simply a matter of fudging up a cable, and simulating the connectors. The few photos I have from "The American Arsenal" ( I really do have a very small book collection) show it attached to the trailer, and supported with a bungie cord. So I would assume, it was more or less kept attached to the trailers back then, as all the photos of the various trailers have the cable attached. The trailer had electric brakes, so I guess that would explain the single cable.
The pony wheels probably could be made to function, but I'm simply not into that sort of thing, but they can be positioned either up, or down. (if I wanted functioning toy models, I'd build a Monogram TBF, and could play with the folding wings, operating landing gears, and bomb the cats all day) so I just glued them in the raised position. I also glue tank barrels, and machine guns! I am so terrible.... I also glue the wheels, I'm not in the habit of driving my models around the house. Although I do make engine sounds, and machine gun sounds as I build them.!!!! LOL
Matthew from what I can gather from my one reference, the "animal/cargo trailer" was a little different, and according to the little drawing, a lot longer... 289" vs199". Wider 96" vs 87" and higher 126" vs 96". Also, the stake body was a 31/2 tonner, and the Animal/Cargo was a 6 tonner, and could carry 8 horses, 8 men, and all their horse and other equiptment. I believe someone makes a 6 ton cargo trailer, just can remember who...... senile moment....
:-) but that probably would be easier to convert to the animal/cargo trailer.
Kevin.... Dusting the coats on 1. they dry faster, 2. you can adjust the color with each dusting. 3. you can do very subdued tonal changes. I thin my paints more than most, I spray closer then most, and I use the lowest presure I can, and still get a spray pattern. Of course they change with which airbrush I'm using.... I can spray closer, and thinner and at a lower pressure with my Iwata, than I can with the the badgers, or passche. With the badgers or passche, I normally use the fine heads. I also use enamels thinned with lacquer thinner, so have no idea how anything works with acrylics.
Any time I try acrylics, I end up clogging my Iwata, and end up having to put the HD heads on my badgers, since they seem to clog my fine and IL heads. So when you hear me say I did something with acrylics, yous guys will know I HAD TO CHANGE HEADS, plus putz around with the air pressure, and everything else. And I am getting too old to start learning new tricks.
The pony wheels probably could be made to function, but I'm simply not into that sort of thing, but they can be positioned either up, or down. (if I wanted functioning toy models, I'd build a Monogram TBF, and could play with the folding wings, operating landing gears, and bomb the cats all day) so I just glued them in the raised position. I also glue tank barrels, and machine guns! I am so terrible.... I also glue the wheels, I'm not in the habit of driving my models around the house. Although I do make engine sounds, and machine gun sounds as I build them.!!!! LOL
Matthew from what I can gather from my one reference, the "animal/cargo trailer" was a little different, and according to the little drawing, a lot longer... 289" vs199". Wider 96" vs 87" and higher 126" vs 96". Also, the stake body was a 31/2 tonner, and the Animal/Cargo was a 6 tonner, and could carry 8 horses, 8 men, and all their horse and other equiptment. I believe someone makes a 6 ton cargo trailer, just can remember who...... senile moment....
:-) but that probably would be easier to convert to the animal/cargo trailer.
Kevin.... Dusting the coats on 1. they dry faster, 2. you can adjust the color with each dusting. 3. you can do very subdued tonal changes. I thin my paints more than most, I spray closer then most, and I use the lowest presure I can, and still get a spray pattern. Of course they change with which airbrush I'm using.... I can spray closer, and thinner and at a lower pressure with my Iwata, than I can with the the badgers, or passche. With the badgers or passche, I normally use the fine heads. I also use enamels thinned with lacquer thinner, so have no idea how anything works with acrylics.
Any time I try acrylics, I end up clogging my Iwata, and end up having to put the HD heads on my badgers, since they seem to clog my fine and IL heads. So when you hear me say I did something with acrylics, yous guys will know I HAD TO CHANGE HEADS, plus putz around with the air pressure, and everything else. And I am getting too old to start learning new tricks.
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Posted: Saturday, February 19, 2005 - 07:02 AM UTC
Dave.Another greea job. A lot of production lately i see..Working on the job again ? ha ha rgds Jim :-)
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Posted: Saturday, February 19, 2005 - 07:27 AM UTC
Thanks JIm..... I'll be at MOSQUITONCON...
I expect my arrival to be met with the sounding of the trumpets,
laying rose pedals at my feet, and belly dancers!!! :-) :-) :-)
NO ... I'm not going to judge.....No, I'm not bringing anything, because I will not be able to spend the entire day and yes, I plan to be my usual unsociable self..... but due plan to uphold tradition, and pay my dues at the show, and take lots of photos for the site.
I expect my arrival to be met with the sounding of the trumpets,
laying rose pedals at my feet, and belly dancers!!! :-) :-) :-)
NO ... I'm not going to judge.....No, I'm not bringing anything, because I will not be able to spend the entire day and yes, I plan to be my usual unsociable self..... but due plan to uphold tradition, and pay my dues at the show, and take lots of photos for the site.
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Posted: Monday, March 14, 2005 - 09:42 PM UTC
Just a few more photos to bring this up to date;
Decals are pieced together from scapebox decals. Door will be held open on fine brass pins, doors have windows rolled down part way. Still have some small details and load to add, along with a little more weathering.
Decals are pieced together from scapebox decals. Door will be held open on fine brass pins, doors have windows rolled down part way. Still have some small details and load to add, along with a little more weathering.
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Posted: Monday, March 14, 2005 - 10:28 PM UTC
Doing her up right there Dave, do you know when they changed from hydraulic and electric, to air brakes.
Kerry
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Posted: Monday, March 14, 2005 - 10:31 PM UTC
No idea Kerry, but the book says this had electric brakes.
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Posted: Monday, March 14, 2005 - 10:55 PM UTC
I know electric brakes have been around forever, they still make them for vehicles that don't have air set up.
The scariest part back in them days would of been a heavy load going down hill, hydraulic brakes aren't much, and electric brakes back then weren't all that great either I heard, that they have improved them tremendously on their dependability.
I guess I need to do some background checking to see just when the changeover was, so we won't be putting air lines on an electric brake trailer, or vise versa.
The scariest part back in them days would of been a heavy load going down hill, hydraulic brakes aren't much, and electric brakes back then weren't all that great either I heard, that they have improved them tremendously on their dependability.
I guess I need to do some background checking to see just when the changeover was, so we won't be putting air lines on an electric brake trailer, or vise versa.
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Posted: Monday, March 14, 2005 - 11:50 PM UTC
LOL these things had a top speed of about 40mph uphill downdale loaded or not and unless the driver flicked it into neutral it would stay at that speed Kerry!
Beautiful job Dave. The decals look good and I really cannot fault your workmanship on this one.
Have you ever built one of the Italeri closed cab GMC kits? It just looks to me as though a lot of the parts are copies of their kit but it may only be me. If and when Italeri release their GMC closed cab kit again it would be worth converting one to this model Chevrolet.
thanks for sharing mate
Cheers
Cliff
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Beautiful job Dave. The decals look good and I really cannot fault your workmanship on this one.
Have you ever built one of the Italeri closed cab GMC kits? It just looks to me as though a lot of the parts are copies of their kit but it may only be me. If and when Italeri release their GMC closed cab kit again it would be worth converting one to this model Chevrolet.
thanks for sharing mate
Cheers
Cliff
PS>.....Ken does this post meet the rules?
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Posted: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 - 12:48 AM UTC
Looing good Grumpy, but do the trailer wheels look tipped out slightly?
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Posted: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 - 01:05 AM UTC
I've only drove diesel engines in the mountains, and if your brakes get faded, the diesel can't hold you back, so I know a gas job sure won't, cause there is a lot less compression in a gas job, so it will go as fast as gravity will carry it, and with no ,and if the rpm's on that engine get to high, it will scatter, and be just like neutral, but that driver quit laughing a long time before that.
Kerry
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