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Tank Destroyers - Combat Briefing!
Martinnnn
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Posted: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 10:18 PM UTC
Tank Destroyers -

Enemy tanks are spotted nearby. It's time to warm up your engines and to prepare for combat! Pay attention now men, this is important information.

Intel has informed us that the enemy tanks will attack at the 1st of May, by first light, around 05:00.

Therefore, our attack will start at the 1st of May, at 00:00, so we can surprise them when they're preparing for combat.

Our combat group so far has 52 fighting men:

panzer67
Mahross
Sabot
Martinnnn
DRAGONWAGON
GunTruck
Frag
MMcLean
Moezilla
SpiritsEye
Blade48mrd
SgtWilhite
kbm
007
Jacques
WeWillHold
moJimbo
Bud1
drumthumper
Delbert
animal
Occam
3442
SEDimmick
Easy_Co
FabioMoretti
TigerFruhe
Recon
warthog
Puma112
Bob-O
eMan
steeldog51
Vadster
keenan
Halfyank
ACHTUNG
Angela
cazmada
rfeehan
Diablo
generalzod
JimF
RottenFuhrer
tsunami
rudie
popaddy
Max_Fischer
BigBrother
Savage
Orffer
War_Machine

We have a lot of firepower, but still the enemy attacks with greater numers, Therefore, I request reinforcements to make sure we can defeat our enemy.

So, if you want to fight with us soldier, enlist on this page and you will get rewarded with a ribbon!

https://armorama.kitmaker.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=Campaigns&file=index&req=showcontent&id=73

Don't forget, you need a tracked self-propelled tank destroyer for this fight. Half tracks are also allowed, as long as they are designed to kill tanks, although full tracked TD's are still encouraged. Wheeled vehicles can not join. Also remember the difference between assault guns and tank destroyers!



That's it men! Return to your tanks and get ready! Final briefing will follow before the offensive.

Martin
DutchBird
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Posted: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 11:37 PM UTC
I might join (I am not certain yet). It all depends on wether I can get, among others, my Jagdpanther finished in time for the Ardennes Offensive Campaign.

If I get it done, I actually might go for a Jagdpanzer IV.

I finally go the first things done on my Jagdpanther in months... though now constructions seems to go fast, very fast. Or, if not available, for a Elefant or Ferdinand.
Martinnnn
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Posted: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 11:40 PM UTC

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I might join (I am not certain yet). It all depends on wether I can get, among others, my Jagdpanther finished in time for the Ardennes Offensive Campaign.

If I get it done, I actually might go for a Jagdpanzer IV.

I finally go the first things done on my Jagdpanther in months... though now constructions seems to go fast, very fast. Or, if not available, for a Elefant or Ferdinand.


Keep building then soldier!

I hope to see you join up our army soon, before it is too late....The enemy is near!

Martin
Jacques
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Posted: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 12:46 AM UTC
Do to your comment on Assualt guns, was the issue of the Russian ISU-152 ever resolved?

IF that is too much a assault gun, I suppose I can pull something else out of the stash...
Martinnnn
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Posted: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 12:48 AM UTC

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Do to your comment on Assualt guns, was the issue of the Russian ISU-152 ever resolved?

IF that is too much a assault gun, I suppose I can pull something else out of the stash...


Is the vehicle officially listed as an assault gun or TD? And where they deployed in TD groups or as assault gun/infantry support?

I though SU's are tank destroyers and ISU's are assault guns.

If that is true, it is not a tank destroyer, I'm sorry. But it sounds it won't be a problem as you have an alternative in your stash?

Martin

Jacques
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Posted: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 07:18 AM UTC
Well, the main problem is that the Russians did not differentiate between a "tank destroyer" and a "Assualt gun". Example:

The ISU-122 series was the best tank destroyer the Russians had in WWII because of its higher muzzle velocity than the ISU-152's 95lb projectile, which was also used as a Tank destroyer. However, both were classified as Assault guns by the Russkies.

Also, the previous series of vehicles, the SU-152, was a similar 152mm howitzer emplaced on the KV-1s chassis.

SU and ISU vehicles were nicknamed "Zveroboy" ("Animal Killer") for their heavy use as a defensive Anti-tank weapon against Tigers, Panthers, and Elephants.

Oh, and SU stands for Samokhodnaya Ustanovka (self propelled mounting). ISU stands for Iosef Stalin Ustanovka (Joseph Stalin (vehicle series) mounting). Again, no differentiation between TD and AG.

However, now that we have had our history and technical breifing, if the ISU-152 still sounds too much outside the intended parameters, I do have other kits I can build instead.

Just not nearly as manly, fearsome, or awesome... :-)
Martinnnn
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Posted: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 07:29 AM UTC
Well reading your post I have no problems with you entering this as entry.

I was especially talking about for instance a Sturmtiger, Brummbär etc.

Even better: build the ISU and the thing you've got on stash. Then you make sure you have something good :-)

Martin
Martinnnn
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Posted: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 07:20 PM UTC
I welcome our new brothers in arms

Littorio
05Sultan

Thanks for your aid men! Your help will be rewarded with a ribbon!

Major_Goose
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Posted: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 08:48 PM UTC
Well i am already in the fleet !!!! with the ISU 152 !! and some troops to go !!!!
Martinnnn
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Posted: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 09:44 PM UTC
Welcome! Your huge firepower will be of good use when facing the enemy tanks!

Martin
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Posted: Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 04:48 AM UTC
I am working on the Tamiya Marder III SdKfz 139 That's the version which the Germans put on the Russian 7.62 cm gun on the 38 (t) hull Adding Friulmodel tracks onto it Will post some pics soon
Martinnnn
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Posted: Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 05:33 AM UTC

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I am working on the Tamiya Marder III SdKfz 139 That's the version which the Germans put on the Russian 7.62 cm gun on the 38 (t) hull Adding Friulmodel tracks onto it Will post some pics soon


Hoho hold on I hope you haven't started yet!

The campaign starts 1st of May.....you can start building then, not before it! Those are the campaign rules! Sorry.....

Important Campaign data

MISSION: Garry's Tank Destroyers
CAMPAIGN LEADER: Martinnnn
SCALE: 1:144 To 1:16
START DATE: May 1st, 2005
COMPLETION DATE: August 31st, 2005

Check the campaign page for more info:

https://armorama.kitmaker.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=Campaigns&file=index&req=showcontent&id=73

Cheers,
Martin
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Posted: Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 06:20 AM UTC

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I am working on the Tamiya Marder III SdKfz 139 That's the version which the Germans put on the Russian 7.62 cm gun on the 38 (t) hull Adding Friulmodel tracks onto it Will post some pics soon
Chad, what aftermarket items are available for this kit? Not that it needs it, but I was just curious.
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Posted: Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 07:46 AM UTC

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I am working on the Tamiya Marder III SdKfz 139 That's the version which the Germans put on the Russian 7.62 cm gun on the 38 (t) hull Adding Friulmodel tracks onto it Will post some pics soon
Chad, what aftermarket items are available for this kit? Not that it needs it, but I was just curious.


Rob
I believe there are some interior kits for it By that I mean the drivers compartment Please give me some time to come up with who makes them I can't think of the maker(s) right now
Vadster
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Posted: Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 08:00 AM UTC
K59 Productions has some cool stuff for that particular Marder found here R&J Products
Martinnnn
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Posted: Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 08:00 AM UTC
Chad you still have got to wait with building till the campaign start date, 1st of May...

Martin
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Posted: Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 08:32 AM UTC
Martinnnn,not building,but hunting,gathering,and ordering stuff for our entry is OK now?
Martinnnn
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Posted: Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 08:58 AM UTC

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Martinnnn,not building,but hunting,gathering,and ordering stuff for our entry is OK now?


Yep, you can buy all your stuff now.

The idea of a campaign is you build with a group of people on a certain subject in a certain period of time. So, you must NOT start before the start date of the campaign.

Of course it IS ok if you buy your kits already and make sure you are ready to go as the campaign starts (so in this case, May 1st)

I also have one kit already so I can start building right away :-)

So, buy already everything you want, but wait with building untill the campaign has started!

Martin
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Posted: Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 09:23 AM UTC
Ok... I think I am going to enter a no longer exotic kit..

The Trumpeter Marder I (75mm Pak 40 auf 39(H)). I also have the older resin version (oops, a bit expensive ). On the other hand, it gives me an option to compare and possibly use as an example for an attempt at scratchbuilding some stuff.

It is still conditional (have to finish some other stuff first).

Martinnnn
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Posted: Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 06:14 PM UTC

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Ok... I think I am going to enter a no longer exotic kit..

The Trumpeter Marder I (75mm Pak 40 auf 39(H)). I also have the older resin version (oops, a bit expensive ). On the other hand, it gives me an option to compare and possibly use as an example for an attempt at scratchbuilding some stuff.

It is still conditional (have to finish some other stuff first).



PLEEEAAASEEEEEEE JOIN

Martin
Littorio
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Posted: Friday, April 15, 2005 - 03:31 AM UTC
Hi all,
I dont know what TD too build I have the following in my stach:
Panzer IV L70/Lang (Tamiya)
JagdTiger (Dragon)
Nashorn (Dragon 1st edition)
JagdPanther (Dragon)
M-18 Hellcat (Acadamy)
M-18 Hellcat (AFV Club)
Achilies II (AFV Club)

I feel like the Hellcat, but which one?
From what I have heard the Acadamy one has some dimension issues is this correct? if so is there a correction set out there?
Or should I Just build the AFV Club kit.
This will be my first armour kit in a very long time.

Ciao
Luciano
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Posted: Friday, April 15, 2005 - 03:43 AM UTC
Hi mate,

I don't know about the accuracy of the M18's but I'd say:

Build as much of those kits as you can :-)

Good luck!
Martin
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Posted: Friday, April 15, 2005 - 05:52 AM UTC
Martin I will only be able to build one as I have to finish off another Campaign first.

Cheers
Luciano
Martinnnn
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Posted: Friday, April 15, 2005 - 06:42 AM UTC

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Martin I will only be able to build one as I have to finish off another Campaign first.

Cheers
Luciano


lol I know the prob, enlisted myself in about ehmm 15 campaigns LOL

Martin
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Posted: Friday, April 15, 2005 - 10:52 AM UTC
Nerts I forgot that the campaign doesn't start until then However I do have some other kits Are prototype fully tracked TD's allowed? I have the Cromwell E-25 TD A resin kit I also hace a Tacam 2 That was a Romainian TD based on the 35 (t) chassis It was armed with the Russian 76mm That kit is made by CMK

However it has a sparse interior I have been looking for images of that interior No luck Here's a pic of the Romainian TD I am talking about

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