Hi folks,
I suggested the below campaign over at The Springbok Club a few weeks ago. After receiving overwhelming support from the SA community and a few more guests, I submitted a proposal to CCC...
Here are some details about it:
Name: SiyaAfrika... the isiZulu for "We are African"
Duration: 25 Nov 2005 - 25 May 2006. (6 months) Why end on 25th May? It's Africa Day, and the 43rd anniversary of the establishment of the OAU.
Rules/Regs: campaign will be any historical or factually based event to have taken place on the African continent or the islands geographically linked to it, excluding WW2 (we have a separate, shorter campaign for that – see below) . The submission should be historically accurate. The reason for this is to get people reading a bit more about African wars and historical events.
Not only allowing military subjects, but civilian as well - as long as it can be backed up by fact!
Examples of civilian could be Queen Cleopatra, dromedari train or even a traditional South African mini-bus taxi complete with shotgun wielding co-driver jumping a red light or driving up the emergency lane to push in front of the rest of the traffic.
Military examples are numerous:
Figures... nothing here need be said...
Armour... how about an Angolan T-55? There are numerous examples...
Aircraft... as per armour, the former Soviet Bloc sold off tons of outdated equipment to struggling countries and rebel groups...
Ships... how about slave ships... they are even still around today...
All I would like to request that each entry be accompanied by a small piece on the event or person it depicts factually supporting it. That way we also all get to learn a bit more about African history and possibly culture.
Click here for the original thread, and please also feel free to pop into The Springbok Club for a virtual pint of anytime...
If you are interested in WW2, have also proposed this campaign
Please show your support for these campaigns. They are the first of their kind.
Your votes are much appreciated! Thanks!
Rudi
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Interesting Campaign Proposal...
Tarok
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Posted: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 - 08:59 PM UTC
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Posted: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 - 11:39 PM UTC
Count me in for this!
Building a 1:35 fully detailed and interiored model of the complete Blue Train...
...(just kidding, that would be a life time project!!!)
But there are so much other nice subjects for this camaign, so I'm in!
Alles zal regt kom!
Building a 1:35 fully detailed and interiored model of the complete Blue Train...
...(just kidding, that would be a life time project!!!)
But there are so much other nice subjects for this camaign, so I'm in!
Alles zal regt kom!
Posted: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 - 11:46 PM UTC
Hi Rudi!!
Very interesting indeed - and I could make several Dios just with our Colonial Wars - (1960's - 70's Guinea-Bissau, Angola and Mozambique) or any 15th Century Caravels or ... I could be stating situations all day
Count me in!
It will be Interesting (to say the least)
Skipper
Very interesting indeed - and I could make several Dios just with our Colonial Wars - (1960's - 70's Guinea-Bissau, Angola and Mozambique) or any 15th Century Caravels or ... I could be stating situations all day
Count me in!
It will be Interesting (to say the least)
Skipper
Tarok
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Posted: Thursday, June 30, 2005 - 12:05 AM UTC
Thanks guys, there are literally tons of possibilities with this...
Paul... I'd love to see that Blue train! Even if it isn't for this campaign
Rui... here are some Mozambique and Angolan war figures from Viriatus that I found a while back...
Diogo Cão (Angola - 1482)
Cuamatos Campaign (Southern Angola 1907)
Captain Vicente - Caçadores 1670 Moçambique (23-Dec-1968 African Wars)
Portuguese Commando (Eastern Angola 1969)
Portuguese Infantry, 21st (WW I - Mozambique, 1916)
Portuguese Cavalry (Angola 1970)
These are great looking figures.
If we get the go-ahead I'm thinking of some Brits from the early Cape Colony occupation, and maybe the Zulu Wars.
Rudi
Paul... I'd love to see that Blue train! Even if it isn't for this campaign
Rui... here are some Mozambique and Angolan war figures from Viriatus that I found a while back...
Diogo Cão (Angola - 1482)
Cuamatos Campaign (Southern Angola 1907)
Captain Vicente - Caçadores 1670 Moçambique (23-Dec-1968 African Wars)
Portuguese Commando (Eastern Angola 1969)
Portuguese Infantry, 21st (WW I - Mozambique, 1916)
Portuguese Cavalry (Angola 1970)
These are great looking figures.
If we get the go-ahead I'm thinking of some Brits from the early Cape Colony occupation, and maybe the Zulu Wars.
Rudi
VoodooChild
Gauteng, South Africa
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Posted: Thursday, June 30, 2005 - 12:08 AM UTC
Count me in.
Maybe 1/35 Hind or Ural 4320...
Cheers
Ed
Maybe 1/35 Hind or Ural 4320...
Cheers
Ed
Neo
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Posted: Thursday, June 30, 2005 - 12:09 AM UTC
How about some Selous Scouts of the Rhodesian Army ?
Maybe a small patrol in the bush dio?
Maybe a small patrol in the bush dio?
Tarok
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Posted: Thursday, June 30, 2005 - 12:19 AM UTC
Quoted Text
How about some Selous Scouts of the Rhodesian Army ?
Maybe a small patrol in the bush dio?
Absolutely... that's the spirit chaps!
Come one, come all!!! :-) :-) :-)
Posted: Thursday, June 30, 2005 - 12:23 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Thanks guys, there are literally tons of possibilities with this...
Paul... I'd love to see that Blue train! Even if it isn't for this campaign
Rui... here are some Mozambique and Angolan war figures from Viriatus that I found a while back...
Diogo Cão (Angola - 1482)
Cuamatos Campaign (Southern Angola 1907)
Captain Vicente - Caçadores 1670 Moçambique (23-Dec-1968 African Wars)
Portuguese Commando (Eastern Angola 1969)
Portuguese Infantry, 21st (WW I - Mozambique, 1916)
Portuguese Cavalry (Angola 1970)
These are great looking figures.
If we get the go-ahead I'm thinking of some Brits from the early Cape Colony occupation, and maybe the Zulu Wars.
Rudi
Yes I know - I have all of them..
But I was thinking of a different situation to enter the Campaign - perhaps the chance to make the portuguese version of the LCM that was used in Guinea-Bissau It's one of those projects that have been in my head for a long time - just needed the push :-)
Skipper
Tarok
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Posted: Thursday, June 30, 2005 - 12:42 AM UTC
Let's hold thumbs for approval.
Rudi
Rudi
Snowhand
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Posted: Thursday, June 30, 2005 - 01:34 AM UTC
The campaign idea is brilliant.. Now, if only I could get a hold off the Kitmaster Beyer Garrat locomotive ( HO/OO scale ).
I take it this campaign will also include Afrika Corps and 8th army desert rats :-)
I take it this campaign will also include Afrika Corps and 8th army desert rats :-)
Posted: Thursday, June 30, 2005 - 01:44 AM UTC
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I take it this campaign will also include Afrika Corps and 8th army desert rats :-)
Hi Richard!!
Actually... no!
Please see Rudi first post
excluding WW2 (we have a separate, shorter campaign for that – see below)
Skipper
Snowhand
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Posted: Thursday, June 30, 2005 - 01:47 AM UTC
Right, OK..
Tarok
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Posted: Thursday, June 30, 2005 - 01:51 AM UTC
Hey VoodooChild,
Sorry I missed your post... Thanks for the ongoing support!
Hey SnowHand,
Here's the link for the Mediterranean & Middle Eastern WW2 campaign: Club Med.......
Hope to have you aboard!
Rudi
Sorry I missed your post... Thanks for the ongoing support!
Hey SnowHand,
Here's the link for the Mediterranean & Middle Eastern WW2 campaign: Club Med.......
Hope to have you aboard!
Rudi
Posted: Thursday, June 30, 2005 - 02:02 AM UTC
Rudi, I’m in! Methinks an Israeli M50 during the 1956 ‘Suez Crisis’. If I can find photos or documentation – that is. Or maybe Airfix’s 1/72 Mirage F-1C(Z) during the ‘Border War’…
As almost every European country has played some part in an African conflict, as either Soldiers or Aid workers etc... There should be some very interesting scenes / models.
For example
The American involvement in Somalia. Maybe a few fantastic things that could come from “Blackhawk Down” dioramas etc.
The 1956 ‘Suez Crisis’, where France, the United Kingdom and Israel were ‘engaged’ with Egypt on Egyptian soil! Don’t forget the ‘United Nations Emergency Force’ that kept the peace.
EDIT: Almost forgot about the Numerous United Nations Peacekeeping Actions in Africa.
From The University of Iowa – Scholarly Digital Resources Center’s African Peace-Keeping Missions:
"Angola -- MONUA (United Nations Observer Mission in Angola).
Angola -- UNAVEM I, II, and III (United Nations Angola Verification Missions).
Chad/Libya -- UNASOG (United Nations Aouzou Strip Observer Group).
Congo -- ONUC (United Nations Operation in the Congo).
Liberia -- UNOMIL (United Nations Observer Mission in Liberia).
Mozambique -- ONUMOZ (United Nations Operation in Mozambique).
Namibia -- UNTAG (United Nations Transition Assistance Group).
Rwanda -- UNAMIR (United Nations Assistance Mission for Rwanda).
Rwanda/Uganda -- UNOMUR (United Nations Observer Mission Uganda-Rwanda).
Somalia -- UNOSOM I and II (United Nations Operations in Somalia).
Western Sahara -- MINURSO (United Nations Mission for the Referendum in Western Sahara)."
As almost every European country has played some part in an African conflict, as either Soldiers or Aid workers etc... There should be some very interesting scenes / models.
For example
The American involvement in Somalia. Maybe a few fantastic things that could come from “Blackhawk Down” dioramas etc.
The 1956 ‘Suez Crisis’, where France, the United Kingdom and Israel were ‘engaged’ with Egypt on Egyptian soil! Don’t forget the ‘United Nations Emergency Force’ that kept the peace.
EDIT: Almost forgot about the Numerous United Nations Peacekeeping Actions in Africa.
From The University of Iowa – Scholarly Digital Resources Center’s African Peace-Keeping Missions:
"Angola -- MONUA (United Nations Observer Mission in Angola).
Angola -- UNAVEM I, II, and III (United Nations Angola Verification Missions).
Chad/Libya -- UNASOG (United Nations Aouzou Strip Observer Group).
Congo -- ONUC (United Nations Operation in the Congo).
Liberia -- UNOMIL (United Nations Observer Mission in Liberia).
Mozambique -- ONUMOZ (United Nations Operation in Mozambique).
Namibia -- UNTAG (United Nations Transition Assistance Group).
Rwanda -- UNAMIR (United Nations Assistance Mission for Rwanda).
Rwanda/Uganda -- UNOMUR (United Nations Observer Mission Uganda-Rwanda).
Somalia -- UNOSOM I and II (United Nations Operations in Somalia).
Western Sahara -- MINURSO (United Nations Mission for the Referendum in Western Sahara)."
Tarok
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Posted: Thursday, June 30, 2005 - 07:24 AM UTC
Eric,
You must have read my mind... I was just thinking about the fact that so many European countries had African colonies, and then also about the US and Australia's involvement in Somalia...
Great to have you aboard, mate!
Rudi
You must have read my mind... I was just thinking about the fact that so many European countries had African colonies, and then also about the US and Australia's involvement in Somalia...
Great to have you aboard, mate!
Rudi
Posted: Friday, July 01, 2005 - 11:22 AM UTC
----Da !!! ................I am at an impass.......want to join ....got no back ground on two I had in mind --------
Will have a go
Yeaha-------got a blinder -----under wraps for now-----YIPEE ...I'm in!!!........can I Rudi?
aye
BARV
ps .........it clanks as well
Tarok
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Posted: Friday, July 01, 2005 - 06:26 PM UTC
Quoted Text
I'm in!!!........can I Rudi?
Thanks Steve... Welcome aboard!
Posted: Friday, July 01, 2005 - 06:41 PM UTC
Hhmmmmm This is interesting.....
There has happened enough stuff on the African Continent where the Dutch were involved. Things not too be proud of as the "Apartheid" (the ugliest word in the whole world is Dutch.... In any other language there is not even a word for that) And the slavetrade that we made big
But also the Dutch Farmers ("Boeren") who gave the English a hard time around 1900. Might invest some time in studying the Boer war.
There has happened enough stuff on the African Continent where the Dutch were involved. Things not too be proud of as the "Apartheid" (the ugliest word in the whole world is Dutch.... In any other language there is not even a word for that) And the slavetrade that we made big
But also the Dutch Farmers ("Boeren") who gave the English a hard time around 1900. Might invest some time in studying the Boer war.
Tarok
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Posted: Friday, July 01, 2005 - 06:47 PM UTC
Robert,
you are right... there are a great number of possible subjects here for... and yes, the Dutch were the (I suppose debatebly) the founding fathers of South Africa... but their influence was far beyond SA... The is also a strong Belgium, German, Portugese, Spanish, Italian, British, etc,etc,etc influence in Africa!
Don't forget all the 20th century subjects...
I've noticed no-one has mentioned WWI in Africa... how about Eritrea???
Rudi
you are right... there are a great number of possible subjects here for... and yes, the Dutch were the (I suppose debatebly) the founding fathers of South Africa... but their influence was far beyond SA... The is also a strong Belgium, German, Portugese, Spanish, Italian, British, etc,etc,etc influence in Africa!
Don't forget all the 20th century subjects...
I've noticed no-one has mentioned WWI in Africa... how about Eritrea???
Rudi
fanai
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Posted: Saturday, July 02, 2005 - 03:00 PM UTC
Tarok count me in I love the boar & zulu war and as you know Queenslanders actually fought in the Boar war and The NSW contingent in Sudan - I would love to do an armoured traindriver maybe as a wee teddy bear
Bren
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Posted: Saturday, July 02, 2005 - 10:23 PM UTC
I'm in,. probably do a blockhouse or some structure related to the SWA campaign in wwi.
Respec,
Erik
Respec,
Erik
Tomascastano
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Posted: Saturday, July 02, 2005 - 11:11 PM UTC
Hi Alls,
I'm new in this forum,just reading during the past
years (sometimes ),and now, I'm a member, .
Very interesting topic..,African Wars..,Can I play? :-) .
Thanks Rudy for your support.
Have a nice day,
Regards,
Tomas Castano
Posted: Sunday, July 03, 2005 - 01:10 AM UTC
Hi Tomas and welcome to Armorama! Why not introduce yourself in the Introductions forum?
Right that makes 12 for this campaign so far. Rudi, you can now ‘Submit A New Campaign’.
Right that makes 12 for this campaign so far. Rudi, you can now ‘Submit A New Campaign’.
Posted: Sunday, July 03, 2005 - 05:51 AM UTC
Well I’ve been thinking about the models that OOTB (Out Of The Box) would qualify for use in this campaign… I’ve come up with the following Aircraft, Fighting vehicles and trucks that can be used for the African campaign:
Tanks:
AMX-13 (Heller)
T-54, T-55, T-62 & T72 (ESCI, Italeri, Tamiya, Trumpeter, DML & ACE)
Sherman tank, just about any (Except the M4A2 for some reason) up to and including the M50 (not the M51 as far as I know)
Centurion (Tamiya)
T-34/85 (Tamiya, Alanger, Dragon, Trumpeter etc)
T-34/100 (Maquette)
M47 (Italeri)
M41 (Skybow, AFV Club, Tamiya)
Fiat-3000 (Tauro)
M13/40 (Italeri)
APC:
BTR (Maquette or Eastern Express)
BRDM-2 (DML)
M113 (Italeri, Academy & Tamiya)
LAV-25 (Italeri & ACE)
AML-60 reconnaissance vehicles (ACE)
AML-90 reconnaissance vehicles (ACE soon)
Helicopters:
SA 330 Puma (Airfix)
Alouette III (Airfix)
Aircraft:
Mirage III & F1 (ESCI, Italeri, Academy & Airfix)
Buccaneer (Airfix & Matchbox?)
Mig17
Mig19
Mig21
Mig23
Mig25
Others (Trucks, Artillery, Anti-tank etc…):
BM-21 (Stalin Organ) (ICM & Alanger)
ZSU-23-4 "Shilka" (Dragon)
GAZ-66 Russian 4x4 (Maquette or Eastern Express?)
ZU-23-2 (Maquette or Eastern Express?)
GAZ-66 Russian 4x4 with ZU-23-2 (Maquette or Eastern Express?)
Ural 375/4320 Cargo trucks (Omega, Alanger & ICM)
UAZ & GAZ Soviet Jeeps (Maquette, Zvesda or Eastern Express?)
Willy’s Jeep
Just about any SAM system (Maquette, Trumpeter)
100mm, 122mm Soviet guns (Alanger & ICM)
105mm &155mm towed artillery (Airfix & Italeri)
60mm, 81mm, 82mm and 120mm mortars
Milan TOW anti-tank guided weapons
RPG 2 & 7
89mm rocket launchers
106mm recoilless rifles
HTH
Tanks:
AMX-13 (Heller)
T-54, T-55, T-62 & T72 (ESCI, Italeri, Tamiya, Trumpeter, DML & ACE)
Sherman tank, just about any (Except the M4A2 for some reason) up to and including the M50 (not the M51 as far as I know)
Centurion (Tamiya)
T-34/85 (Tamiya, Alanger, Dragon, Trumpeter etc)
T-34/100 (Maquette)
M47 (Italeri)
M41 (Skybow, AFV Club, Tamiya)
Fiat-3000 (Tauro)
M13/40 (Italeri)
APC:
BTR (Maquette or Eastern Express)
BRDM-2 (DML)
M113 (Italeri, Academy & Tamiya)
LAV-25 (Italeri & ACE)
AML-60 reconnaissance vehicles (ACE)
AML-90 reconnaissance vehicles (ACE soon)
Helicopters:
SA 330 Puma (Airfix)
Alouette III (Airfix)
Aircraft:
Mirage III & F1 (ESCI, Italeri, Academy & Airfix)
Buccaneer (Airfix & Matchbox?)
Mig17
Mig19
Mig21
Mig23
Mig25
Others (Trucks, Artillery, Anti-tank etc…):
BM-21 (Stalin Organ) (ICM & Alanger)
ZSU-23-4 "Shilka" (Dragon)
GAZ-66 Russian 4x4 (Maquette or Eastern Express?)
ZU-23-2 (Maquette or Eastern Express?)
GAZ-66 Russian 4x4 with ZU-23-2 (Maquette or Eastern Express?)
Ural 375/4320 Cargo trucks (Omega, Alanger & ICM)
UAZ & GAZ Soviet Jeeps (Maquette, Zvesda or Eastern Express?)
Willy’s Jeep
Just about any SAM system (Maquette, Trumpeter)
100mm, 122mm Soviet guns (Alanger & ICM)
105mm &155mm towed artillery (Airfix & Italeri)
60mm, 81mm, 82mm and 120mm mortars
Milan TOW anti-tank guided weapons
RPG 2 & 7
89mm rocket launchers
106mm recoilless rifles
HTH
Tarok
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Posted: Sunday, July 03, 2005 - 05:11 PM UTC
Hi All:
Thanks for the support... especially Savage!
The proposal has been sent in, I'll forward the link to GunTruck.
Thanks lads and lasses... :-)
rudi
Thanks for the support... especially Savage!
The proposal has been sent in, I'll forward the link to GunTruck.
Thanks lads and lasses... :-)
rudi