Hi Frank - Clanky44:

I posted this in the Aircraft Forum in the Mosquito FB Mk VI thread but I believe that this is where it has to be.

Or you´re very persuasive or I´m very easy to convince
I thought in all the time that 7 months are and as my Moosie is finished today I went to the model shop and bought a Vickers Wellington Mk X / XIV and a Mitchell B 25 J both from Revell in 1/72 scale.
The result is that I dicided to make a second entry with one of these kits. The problem is that the Wellington has the bomb bay closed and I saw there is already a Mitchel B 25J in 1/48 wich is Klimmer´s entry.
I would really prefer to enter with the Wellington but I don´t know if the rules accept a closed bomb bay,
maybe a solution could be to present the AC in a dio, for example in a field with a load of bombs and petrol barrels near it.

What do you think about it ?

Carlos

Thank you Klimmer. Seeing the fantastic work you´ve done with you´re B-25 I´m sure your Moosie will come out great Is it a Tamiya kit ?

Cheers
Carlos

Hi all

I'd love to build an aircraft again. Either a Dutch B-25 or P-2 Neptune:



Does anyone know a Neptune kit?

Martin

Martin

Hasegawa make 1/72 P2V-7 Neptune this kit has also been boxed by Revell.
http://www.hannants.co.uk/search/?CATEGORY=&DIVISION=&MANUFACTURER=&CODE=&TYPE=&SCALE=&KEYWORD=neptune&NUMPERPAGE=25&order%5B%5D=code+asc

Revell has also just released a 1/72 B-25J with dutch markings.
http://www.revell.de/en/products/model_kits/model_kits/aircraft/index.html?id=210&KOKANR=01&KOSCHL=01&KGSCHL=&L=1&page=4&sort=0&nc=1&searchactive=&q=&SWO=&ARMAS4=&CatalogueSID=fd7c719da86629c85c2851d2878baf59&KZSLPG=all&offset=25&cmd=show&ARARTN=04360&sp=1

David

Hello Frank




You might reconsider your decision allowing single engined a/c. TreeCat (who appearently took his parachute ) intended this to be a "multi-engined campaign" .

I've seen Sabots post who wants to enter a Fi 103R (which isn't even an a/c .... o.k. if he put it under a He 111 H-20 it would fit in)

I think it is too easy to put a bomb below my usual Bf 109/Thunderbolt/Mustang/Fw 190/... in this case. I like the Avanger (isn't there a Flattops campaign going on??) and also I have nothing against another Lw '46 flying mobile but in my opinoin this is about the heavy stuff.

I am not in charge and I do not want to make things complicated (read: no offens intended) but I would prefer a multi engined "Bombs Away"-campaign

best wishes

Steffen

Hello From Bomber Command....

First of all, a couple of points,.... our esteemed commander, TreeCat, remains an MIA. I remain confident that he will be seen over our friendly skies to resume his command. In his abscence, I am merely assisting until he returns. With this in mind, I need to maintain the integrity of the campaign as TreeCat intended. Let me clarify and answer a couple of questions and postings put forth recently....

Steffen,... You are correct, and thank you for straightening me out!

Carlos, Eric,... I too posted the closed bomb-bay question to TreeCat, and received the following reply,.... ' a closed bomb-bay was acceptable as long as the bomber was placed on a base showing some activity around it, such as a fueling truck or stacked bombs ' So, with this in mind, you could build your plane of choice, as long as it shows its true potential on a base with some related activity around it.

AJ,.... While I have allowed the Avenger in the Campaign, I hope you realize that if TreeCat resumes his responsibility, the choice of allowing the Avenger is ultimately his. Given the amount of time left in the campaign, I hope that you decide to have a second kick at the cat. and choose a second plane,... a multi-engined bomber.

Robin,.... I hope the repainting of your manned Fi103R buzz bomb goes well. I'm not too well versed on this plane/manned bomb, but if it is a single engined plane, then it will not qualify for the campaign. If this is the case, I hope you decide to stay aboard and choose an appropriate multi-engined bomber.


Here is the updated flight registry.....

LANDED

Bethelyn (Andy)... 48th Betty
Klimmer (Ted)... 48th B25
TankCarl (Carl)... 72nd B49
DarkTrooper (AJ)... 48th Avenger (pending on Treecat)
csch (Carlos)... 48th Mosquito FB Mk VI

IN FLIGHT

EDC (Grant)... 72nd B17F
MightyRhinox (Roderick)... 48th B25
Alpha_Tango (Steffen)... 48th Fw200
Sabot (Robin)... pending

READY FOR TAKE-OFF

Clanky44 (Frank)... 72nd Lancaster
TedMamere (Jean-Luc)... Douglas A-20G Havoc
almonkey (Phil)... pending
Savage (Eric)... Bristol Blenheim MkIV
Martinnnn (Martin)... Dutch B-25 or P-2 Neptune
PolarBear ... pending

That´s great Frank. So my second entry will be a Vickers Wellington Mk X in 1/72 (Revell).

I´ll be in flight in a pair of weeks,when a couple of projects that are in the workbench will be ready. I´ll give advise of my take off and post pics of the building process.

Hey guys,
I got the Accurate Miniatures B-25G( 75mm cannon in the nose) for my birthday, so if I don't find another bomber soon I'll will be building this kit. I was playing around with the idea of building a PBY with depth charges slung under the wings( to change it up a little)...but we'll see...Nigel

I've been thinking of joining this campaign but it does seem to be losing focus. Originally, it was multi-engine with open bomb bay or ordnance hanging from wings if no bomb bay. Then it was closed bomb bay is ok. Now it's possibly going to allow single-engine. Heck, I could have chosen many more kits from my stash to build without the original restrictions.

I certainly don't want to see this open up so much as to allow a P-51D with bombs, but then the Avenger does have a bomb bay. So, maybe the campaign could be opened up to single-engine aircraft that have a bomb bay, which must be open. This opens the campaign up for such things as F-105, TBM, Fairey Battle, and possibly what I had considered doing at first (until I realized it wasn't multi-engine), the Vickers Wellesley. Actually, that still might not quite count as the Wellesley itself doesn't have a bomb bay, but has wing pods that have bomb bays.

Just my 2 cents worth.

As per the rules: Ground carts, bomb trailers, fuel trucks,and follow me jeeps are allowed...it is basically a bomb on a cart that was blessed by Treecat back in October:


Here is the original thread: Bombs Away campaign proposed. It was intended to be launched from a multi-engined bomber.

Hi Sabot

Thanks for the clarification, as per your discussion with Treecat on Oct 15th 2005, your flying bomb is in.

Hi GaryKato

Please understand that TreeCat seemed willing to take up suggestions from members on modifying his written rules on what was allowable. Robin, as he has stated above, had received permission from TreeCat on modelling a flying bomb, and therefore will be allowed. My dilemma is to try to maintain TreeCats initial idea of a multi-engined bomber campaign, showing the internal bomb-bay, which he then altered to allow multi-engined bombers with closed doors on a base with the ordinance displayed next to the bomber. I will do my best to keep the campaign focused, if you have any other questions or comments please, feel free to bring them up.

Frank

Hello Frank

you are doing a great job!!

Sabot: I did not know TreeCat allowed the buzz bomb, I'm sorry! Maybe he was trying to "lure" in the armour modellers in this campaign.

As an explanation: I thought the part: Ground carts, bomb trailers, fuel trucks,and follow me jeeps are allowed was meant in addition to the closed bomb doors variant to make clear this aircraft will do harm !

BTW what scale is the Fieseler?

best wishes

Steffen

Even with the bomb bay doors closed I can´t imagine that this twin engine bird wasn´t a bomber.

Vickers Wellington RAF twin engine bomber.

The next situation is a nice one to replicate in a dio:

This one?



cheers

Steffen

Right Steffen. You were faster...

This looks like excactly what I'm looking for:



Going to search for this kit in Dutch hobby shops!

Martin

Thank you Klimmer. Seeing the fantastic work you´ve done with you´re B-25 I´m sure your Moosie will come out great Is it a Tamiya kit ?

Cheers
Carlos[/quote]

Thanks for the kind words on my build Carlos, and yes I have the Tamiya kit. Hopefully one day take it out of the stash and put it on the bench.

Cheers
Ted

Whoohoo found a Neptune kit, although it's not the "special" Dutch kit.

Well, keeps me busy and I'll find a solution for the markings later..

Kit looks pretty nice. Bigger than I expected in 1/72 actually!

Martin

hi frank! just saw i was listed as pending, so heres a sort of update on my intentions. i'm in the middle of a few campaigns and group builds right now, i was building an airfix ju 88 oob, so i could officially be listed as finished, with the idea of a big build when i get some of my obligations finished. my choices of kit are-
revell halifax
revell heinkel 177
roden heinkel 111 (spanish civil war version)
roden gotha Gv
airfix hampden
although i don't have a final choice of kit, and i'm using the von schliefen method of finishing this one, i would say i'm in the ready to take off catagory
p.s. has the fairy battle been clarified? i have one of those in my stash too

Hi Phil,

Those are all interesting possibilities, I dare say, not an easy one in the bunch! As far as the Fairy Battle,... as I stated on my last posting, I am only a care-taker to this campaign, and as such, I will be holding it to TreeCats guidelines. If you had any prior exchange with TreeCat regarding any deviation from the rules (as Sabot did) before his absence, then it will be allowed, otherwise I will limit the entries to multi-engined bombers with the bomb-bay doors open showing the ordinance, or on a base with the doors shut but showing groundcrew in activity. You could show it re-fueling or preparing a bomb load. I made a questionable choice to allow Darktroopers Avenger in before carefully thinking of its effects, it will remain as the only single engined bomber allowed (by me).

I hope to see some progress shots of your bomber soon!

thanks,
Frank

Hi all,

Now that I've got a kit it's time for some research. I want to build my Neptune as a P2V-7B, which were used as patrol/search and destroy planes at New-Guinea during the conflict with Indonesia.

Indonesia was given back to the Indonesian people around 1950. New-Guinea remained the only Dutch colony in the far east. Indonesia however tried to infiltrate the island to get agents and sabotage teams on the island. The conflict ended Octobre 1st 1962 under pressure of the UN.

The PV2-7B's were used for patrols to stop these infiltrations. During one of these patrols in 1962, Neptune #201 destroyed at least one of the Indonesian landing crafts.

These P2V-7B's had closed noses, with automatic cannons. However I can't find much usefull (detailled!) reference material for this Neptune type. Could someone help me with this?

Some things I did find:





So who knows where I can find a detailled walkaround of the Neptune, if possible the PV2-7B version with the "gunship-nose"??

Thanks,
Martin

Martin
The gun nose looks like the standard 6 x 20mm cannon nose used on the P2V-2 through -4. Unfortunately I'm not aware of any conversion that offers this nose.

P2V-7 walk around
http://www.primeportal.net/hangar/luc_colin/p2v7_walk_1.htm

P2V-7B pics
http://www.aeroplaneart.com.au/JAB_Dutch.htm

P2V-4 Solid nose pics
http://www.verslo.is/Baldur/p2/vp22.htm

David

Well I make a new nose with miliput, that shouldn't be a problem (just a lot of sanding )

Many many thanks for this information!

Martin